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Israel is no stranger to doing exact same things to Palestinians at much grander scale for decades. So, your point is? That it's good to do such things if you'r

by megous 3y ago

Israel is no stranger to doing exact same things to Palestinians at much grander scale for decades. So, your point is? That it's good to do such things if you're the oppressor with more capabilities? It's a conflict stemming from a violent state building project devised and implemented by Zionists and supported for whatever geopolitical reasons by world powers. And the project is ongoing. Should Palestinians just take it? All one needs to do to see how shitty and unacceptable such project may look to the oppressed people of Gaza and West Bank is to look up and read through materials published by various Israeli human rights organizations, like: Gisha: https://gisha.org/en/ https://gisha.org/en/ - https://features.gisha.org/gaza-up-close/ https://features.gisha.org/gaza-up-close/ B'Tselem: https://www.btselem.org/ https://www.btselem.org/ HaMoked: https://hamoked.org/documents_topics.php?topic=Torture https://hamoked.org/documents_topics.php?topic=Torture Or look at some statistics of what childhood is like in Gaza: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7137754/table/T2/?report=objectonly https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7137754/table/T... People are born into this and have to live under such oppression. Hard to blame them getting into resistance movements when they grow up. And all the talk about "legitimate" resistance from someone who supports the oppressor, and has no concept of living under oppression, is also rich. Especially when even such weak forms of "supporting" Palestinian cause as teaching about it in balanced way are vehemently opposed even with lawsuits and other intimidation of teachers and schools: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLKrZmw66M0&list=PLJpexbhqynwPn2lBfOzRnpbVRBPQ-KVSa&index=17&pp=iAQB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLKrZmw66M0&list=PLJpexbhqyn...

xk_id 3y ago
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- megous 3y ago
  You haven't seen any IDF abuse videos did you? Peeing on people they abduct, or on people they just killed, etc. Shitting into temporarily evacuated people's cooking utensils, out of spite, or whatever. Breaking bones of captured people as policy? Dragging someone tied behind a car in a dirt for fun? Using children as human shields to force them to check bags for suspected bombs? (at least this last thing was punished) Beating children taken to prisons? Just shooting children into knees and heads for fun/as policy. Easy to find documentation of vile IDF/settler abuses online. You can't judge a whole group of people by actions of individuals. Israelis are not some chosen people immune from doing vile shit. So are not Palestinians. This is not about nature of a group or whatever outdated racist bigotry you base your thinking on.
  - megous 3y ago
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/17n576y/the_electronic_intifada_releases_footage_of/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/17n576y/the_elec... https://electronicintifada.net/content/israelis-filmed-abusing-bodies-palestinian-fighters/39731 https://electronicintifada.net/content/israelis-filmed-abusi... These kinds of people then go home, and are well adjusted.
  - xk_id 3y ago
    Ok and? I never defended the zionists the way you are defending the palestinians.
- enterprise_cog 3y ago
  Whoops, your mask came off. You’ll want to take your racism elsewhere.
  - xk_id 3y ago
    what mask? I would never conceal my disgust.
    - enterprise_cog 3y ago
      Said while posting on an alt account.
      - xk_id 3y ago
        not an alt.
ecmascript 3y ago
> Israel is no stranger to doing exact same things to Palestinians at much grander scale for decades. Cmon man, stop with the bullshit already. Israel sends text messages to civilians before bombing a building terrorist targets are in and many other measures to do their utmost not to harm civilians. Hamas on the other hand specifically targets civillians instead of military or strategic targets. It's a huge difference and not the same thing. When you open with that shit I and any sane individual won't bother to listen to what else you may have to say regarding this matter because it's so ignorant and to be honest infuriating. And what is the end goal exactly? What is the proposed solution? Hamas don't want a two party state, they are only satisfied when all jews are killed and Israel destroyed because that is their openly stated goal. What can Israel do besides letting them be like they have done for a long time and now they can't anymore because they declared war with their actions.
- megous 3y ago
  > Israel sends text messages to civilians before bombing a building terrorist targets are in and many other measures to do their utmost not to harm civilians. And the reason for 10,000 bombed out people in less then a month then is? They just stayed because they wanted to be bombed?

by megous 3y ago

xk_id 3y ago

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megous 3y ago
You haven't seen any IDF abuse videos did you? Peeing on people they abduct, or on people they just killed, etc. Shitting into temporarily evacuated people's cooking utensils, out of spite, or whatever. Breaking bones of captured people as policy? Dragging someone tied behind a car in a dirt for fun? Using children as human shields to force them to check bags for suspected bombs? (at least this last thing was punished) Beating children taken to prisons? Just shooting children into knees and heads for fun/as policy. Easy to find documentation of vile IDF/settler abuses online. You can't judge a whole group of people by actions of individuals. Israelis are not some chosen people immune from doing vile shit. So are not Palestinians. This is not about nature of a group or whatever outdated racist bigotry you base your thinking on.
- megous 3y ago
  https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/17n576y/the_electronic_intifada_releases_footage_of/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/17n576y/the_elec... https://electronicintifada.net/content/israelis-filmed-abusing-bodies-palestinian-fighters/39731 https://electronicintifada.net/content/israelis-filmed-abusi... These kinds of people then go home, and are well adjusted.
- xk_id 3y ago
  Ok and? I never defended the zionists the way you are defending the palestinians.
enterprise_cog 3y ago
Whoops, your mask came off. You’ll want to take your racism elsewhere.
- xk_id 3y ago
  what mask? I would never conceal my disgust.
  - enterprise_cog 3y ago
    Said while posting on an alt account.
    - xk_id 3y ago
      not an alt.

ecmascript 3y ago

> Israel is no stranger to doing exact same things to Palestinians at much grander scale for decades. Cmon man, stop with the bullshit already. Israel sends text messages to civilians before bombing a building terrorist targets are in and many other measures to do their utmost not to harm civilians. Hamas on the other hand specifically targets civillians instead of military or strategic targets. It's a huge difference and not the same thing. When you open with that shit I and any sane individual won't bother to listen to what else you may have to say regarding this matter because it's so ignorant and to be honest infuriating. And what is the end goal exactly? What is the proposed solution? Hamas don't want a two party state, they are only satisfied when all jews are killed and Israel destroyed because that is their openly stated goal. What can Israel do besides letting them be like they have done for a long time and now they can't anymore because they declared war with their actions.

megous 3y ago
> Israel sends text messages to civilians before bombing a building terrorist targets are in and many other measures to do their utmost not to harm civilians. And the reason for 10,000 bombed out people in less then a month then is? They just stayed because they wanted to be bombed?