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Since we're on the topic of "dragging in big funding based on the dream of fusion", can you point to a press release where they explicitly mention that this res

Since we're on the topic of "dragging in big funding based on the dream of fusion", can you point to a press release where they explicitly mention that this research is for weapons research and not for power research?

itishappy 3y ago
Have you checked their website? > MAINTAINING THE NUCLEAR DETERRENT > Stockpile Stewardship > NIF is a key element of the National Nuclear Security Administration’s science-based Stockpile Stewardship Program to maintain the reliability, security, and safety of the U.S. nuclear deterrent without full-scale testing. https://lasers.llnl.gov/about/what-is-nif https://lasers.llnl.gov/about/what-is-nif > For more than 70 years, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory has applied science and technology (S&T) to make the world a safer place. While keeping our crucial mission-driven commitments in mind, we apply cutting-edge science and technology to achieve breakthroughs in nuclear deterrence, counterterrorism and nonproliferation, defense and intelligence and energy and environmental security. https://www.llnl.gov/ https://www.llnl.gov/ It's also intended for energy research, but there's an important distinction between "energy research" and "energy production."
- throwawaymaths 3y ago
  Website != Press release
  - firedaemon 3y ago
    At this point the claim seems to be but I think that some people think it is all about energy, as if your random interpretation of other peoples’ belief is relevant. They do weapons. They said they do weapons. What’s the problem.
    - throwawaymaths 3y ago
      They don't say that in their press releases. None of the popular media coverage talks about the weapons aspect, much less that it's primary. I challenge you to prove me wrong. The general public is not stupid (but they are lazy), when the dust settles and people see that nif never resulted in anything but very tangential results useful for power, they're going to complain about the lack of transparency. Just as they are doing with the whole COVID masking debate. Scientists really dig their own graves sometimes.

itishappy 3y ago

Have you checked their website? > MAINTAINING THE NUCLEAR DETERRENT > Stockpile Stewardship > NIF is a key element of the National Nuclear Security Administration’s science-based Stockpile Stewardship Program to maintain the reliability, security, and safety of the U.S. nuclear deterrent without full-scale testing. https://lasers.llnl.gov/about/what-is-nif https://lasers.llnl.gov/about/what-is-nif > For more than 70 years, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory has applied science and technology (S&T) to make the world a safer place. While keeping our crucial mission-driven commitments in mind, we apply cutting-edge science and technology to achieve breakthroughs in nuclear deterrence, counterterrorism and nonproliferation, defense and intelligence and energy and environmental security. https://www.llnl.gov/ https://www.llnl.gov/ It's also intended for energy research, but there's an important distinction between "energy research" and "energy production."

throwawaymaths 3y ago
Website != Press release
- firedaemon 3y ago
  At this point the claim seems to be but I think that some people think it is all about energy, as if your random interpretation of other peoples’ belief is relevant. They do weapons. They said they do weapons. What’s the problem.
  - throwawaymaths 3y ago
    They don't say that in their press releases. None of the popular media coverage talks about the weapons aspect, much less that it's primary. I challenge you to prove me wrong. The general public is not stupid (but they are lazy), when the dust settles and people see that nif never resulted in anything but very tangential results useful for power, they're going to complain about the lack of transparency. Just as they are doing with the whole COVID masking debate. Scientists really dig their own graves sometimes.