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This is interesting in that I've noticed when a hurricane is about to hit Florida you have to filter through all this spam news to get actual actionable informa

by xrd 3y ago

This is interesting in that I've noticed when a hurricane is about to hit Florida you have to filter through all this spam news to get actual actionable information about the storm. The terrible news agencies have no incentive to provide the information because they just need to provide click baity links to serve ads, and it feels like the information you eventually get isn't the most accurate, it's the most sensational. "THIS might be the biggest storm in thousands of years! PLEASE SHARE THIS LINK ON SOCIAL MEDIA!" If this model can be used by independent media or by me, I could provide a blog which gives accurate information and actually helps people. That's a very interesting turn. I can't tell if this model is released publicly from this article or just available behind a Google service? And, if it helps further the demise of these consolidated "local" news sites (which are always just content mills owned by some large national owner) then even better.

jszymborski 3y ago
In Canada, I use weather.gc.ca . It's steered me through some terrible ice storms. https://www.weather.gc.ca/city/pages/qc-147_metric_e.html https://www.weather.gc.ca/city/pages/qc-147_metric_e.html Does weather.gov suit your purposes? https://www.weather.gov/mfl/ https://www.weather.gov/mfl/
- switchbak 3y ago
  I’ve found the Canadian weather site to be quite inaccurate as compared to a local forecast from weather underground. Especially when it comes to short term predictions of actual rain, it seems magnitudes better, and it updates its forecasts at a much higher frequency. The precipitation view is only available on the web view for some reason. That said, the Weather Canada satellite view is indispensable. Even if the site hasn’t changed in literally 25 years.
- bee_rider 3y ago
  What actions are necessary on your part? Having been lucky enough to grow up in New England, my response to cold weather stuff is mostly… go inside, get a blanket and throw another log on the fire. But in Canada you all get a more serious type of cold I think. Places like Florida or Kansas where the weather will actually come get you inside seem like pretty out there places to live.
  - foobarchu 3y ago
    > Places like Florida or Kansas It's not too complicated with tornados. If you're urban, you listen for sirens, then take cover if you have to. If you have a basement, go there. Otherwise, you just watch the sky when it gets spooky and kind of accept you might get Oz'd at any time. There's not many prep actions to take, other than maybe popping open the garage door and getting out lawn chairs if you have a good view.
    - jokethrowaway 3y ago
      Having lived in Europe all my life, it sounds pretty insane to live like this. I'm thinking of moving to the Caribbean but storms / hurricanes are quite a mental jump for me. I guess that's the price to pay for hot water in the sea
      - foobarchu 3y ago
        Hurricanes are a different story, they are highly predictable (even in the very rare cases that the models are horrifically wrong about intensity, like the recent Hurricane Otis, we still got the track pretty close), but gigantic. Tornados on the other hand are almost impossible to predict. The best our weather service can do is say "this storm is the kind that produces tornados, watch out" (a tornado watch), and to set off the sirens when one is sighted (a tornado warning). Hurricanes are high intensity over a very large area, lasting for a long time. Tornados are short lived, unbelievably powerful, and cut a narrow path through whatever they decide to mow over.
        bee_rider 3y ago
        Hurricanes are also the sort of disaster that the US is pretty decent at handling. They are big enough to be a major new event, but small enough that one only hits a couple states at a time. Small enough to not outdo our ability to focus national resources, but enough to draw our attention. Hurricanes hitting smaller, less rich countries seem like a much bigger humanitarian crisis.
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zombielinux 3y ago
The site(s) you are looking for are: nhc.noaa.gov and https://spaghettimodels.com/ https://spaghettimodels.com/
- dudleypippin 3y ago
  Similarly: https://www.trackthetropics.com/ https://www.trackthetropics.com/
baq 3y ago
There are only 3 places you need: 1. https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ 2. Your local NWS site 3. https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/ https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/
- rjj 3y ago
  Simple. Find your dot on about 10 PDFs, interpret a handful of weather variables, know the safety tipping points of each, don't get it wrong or you may be injured, and check back every 4 hours! Easy.
  - Workaccount2 3y ago
    Usually this is what most people would be looking for: https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=ecmwf&region=us&pkg=mslp_pcpn&runtime=2023110306&fh=12 https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=ecmwf...
  - _ea1k 3y ago
    TBH, the NHC one is very good. Each storm has a "Forecast discussion" link with specific details on the things that specifically drove the forecast. The NWS publishes something similar for each area forecast, and it is often incredibly insightful. It isn't necessarily as good as the best local weather coverage, but it might help to point you to which station is giving the best coverage.
    - spdustin 3y ago
      And honestly, the local weather office forecast discussions are great, too. If they seem too dense with arcane language, that's actually something that ChatGPT does a great job of distilling. "Act like a professional meteorologist specializing in public speaking. Please read the following technical forecast discussion from NWS, and rephrase it to be more accessible to an audience that is educated, but not experts in meteorology."
  - auspiv 3y ago
    Do you want sensational click-bait articles or do you want actual weather forecasts by people who understand the topic and know how to interpret the models? Take your pick. One is simple, the other is not.
Quinner 3y ago
The vast majority of US weather data and forecasting comes from the National Weather Service, and you can access it directly at www.weather.gov

by xrd 3y ago

jszymborski 3y ago

In Canada, I use weather.gc.ca . It's steered me through some terrible ice storms. https://www.weather.gc.ca/city/pages/qc-147_metric_e.html https://www.weather.gc.ca/city/pages/qc-147_metric_e.html Does weather.gov suit your purposes? https://www.weather.gov/mfl/ https://www.weather.gov/mfl/

switchbak 3y ago
I’ve found the Canadian weather site to be quite inaccurate as compared to a local forecast from weather underground. Especially when it comes to short term predictions of actual rain, it seems magnitudes better, and it updates its forecasts at a much higher frequency. The precipitation view is only available on the web view for some reason. That said, the Weather Canada satellite view is indispensable. Even if the site hasn’t changed in literally 25 years.
bee_rider 3y ago
What actions are necessary on your part? Having been lucky enough to grow up in New England, my response to cold weather stuff is mostly… go inside, get a blanket and throw another log on the fire. But in Canada you all get a more serious type of cold I think. Places like Florida or Kansas where the weather will actually come get you inside seem like pretty out there places to live.
- foobarchu 3y ago
  > Places like Florida or Kansas It's not too complicated with tornados. If you're urban, you listen for sirens, then take cover if you have to. If you have a basement, go there. Otherwise, you just watch the sky when it gets spooky and kind of accept you might get Oz'd at any time. There's not many prep actions to take, other than maybe popping open the garage door and getting out lawn chairs if you have a good view.
  - jokethrowaway 3y ago
    Having lived in Europe all my life, it sounds pretty insane to live like this. I'm thinking of moving to the Caribbean but storms / hurricanes are quite a mental jump for me. I guess that's the price to pay for hot water in the sea
    - foobarchu 3y ago
      Hurricanes are a different story, they are highly predictable (even in the very rare cases that the models are horrifically wrong about intensity, like the recent Hurricane Otis, we still got the track pretty close), but gigantic. Tornados on the other hand are almost impossible to predict. The best our weather service can do is say "this storm is the kind that produces tornados, watch out" (a tornado watch), and to set off the sirens when one is sighted (a tornado warning). Hurricanes are high intensity over a very large area, lasting for a long time. Tornados are short lived, unbelievably powerful, and cut a narrow path through whatever they decide to mow over.
      - bee_rider 3y ago
        Hurricanes are also the sort of disaster that the US is pretty decent at handling. They are big enough to be a major new event, but small enough that one only hits a couple states at a time. Small enough to not outdo our ability to focus national resources, but enough to draw our attention. Hurricanes hitting smaller, less rich countries seem like a much bigger humanitarian crisis.
    - deleted 3y ago

zombielinux 3y ago

The site(s) you are looking for are: nhc.noaa.gov and https://spaghettimodels.com/ https://spaghettimodels.com/

dudleypippin 3y ago
Similarly: https://www.trackthetropics.com/ https://www.trackthetropics.com/

baq 3y ago

There are only 3 places you need: 1. https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ 2. Your local NWS site 3. https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/ https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/

rjj 3y ago
Simple. Find your dot on about 10 PDFs, interpret a handful of weather variables, know the safety tipping points of each, don't get it wrong or you may be injured, and check back every 4 hours! Easy.
- Workaccount2 3y ago
  Usually this is what most people would be looking for: https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=ecmwf&region=us&pkg=mslp_pcpn&runtime=2023110306&fh=12 https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=ecmwf...
- _ea1k 3y ago
  TBH, the NHC one is very good. Each storm has a "Forecast discussion" link with specific details on the things that specifically drove the forecast. The NWS publishes something similar for each area forecast, and it is often incredibly insightful. It isn't necessarily as good as the best local weather coverage, but it might help to point you to which station is giving the best coverage.
  - spdustin 3y ago
    And honestly, the local weather office forecast discussions are great, too. If they seem too dense with arcane language, that's actually something that ChatGPT does a great job of distilling. "Act like a professional meteorologist specializing in public speaking. Please read the following technical forecast discussion from NWS, and rephrase it to be more accessible to an audience that is educated, but not experts in meteorology."
- auspiv 3y ago
  Do you want sensational click-bait articles or do you want actual weather forecasts by people who understand the topic and know how to interpret the models? Take your pick. One is simple, the other is not.

Quinner 3y ago

The vast majority of US weather data and forecasting comes from the National Weather Service, and you can access it directly at www.weather.gov