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I wish apple would just repackage and sell android in the EU. It wasn't bad enough the EU forced the inferior USB-C on the world, now they wanr shitty apps bein

by _8j50 3y ago

I wish apple would just repackage and sell android in the EU. It wasn't bad enough the EU forced the inferior USB-C on the world, now they wanr shitty apps being exposed to people who are paying extra for quality. I don't think ios is more secure but it is reliable and pleasant to use. That's the experience I want and pay for. My prefernece as a consumer is being taken away to appease the ideology of tyrants. It's like with open source how some think every software should be free and opensource, like I use Linux and all but I also like closed source apple and windows. If you want free and open source you have options. If you want phones that let you install arbitrary apk's/apps you have that option but why are you forcing your prefence on others? Tyranny by any other name. As if it would be more acceptable because it is popular when the people with the opinions refuse to vote with their wallets. "Meat is not to be sold at stores because we can't afford it and it offends vegetarians"

crossroadsguy 3y ago
iOS is neither reliable, nor pleasant to use.
- _8j50 3y ago
  Enjoy android or the platform of your choice then? I you too are not so self-centered that you can't fathom others having a different taste and opinion than you.
  - crossroadsguy 3y ago
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    - halJordan 3y ago
      If you have to tell people you definitely know what you're talking about in the same breath you call them stupid- then i think we can just assume the opposite of what you say in all cases
      - crossroadsguy 3y ago
        > you definitely know what you're talking about in the same breath you call them stupid But what if I know they are being stupid and that is what I am pointing out? No, really.
    - marinesebastian 3y ago
      Oh, so you're an Android developer and an iOS user, huh? That's quite the rare combination. I'm sure you're very knowledgeable about both platforms, but that doesn't mean you have to be so condescending. If iOS is so unreliable and unpleasant to use, why do you keep using it? Maybe you're just a masochist. Or maybe you're just afraid to admit that you're wrong.
      - crossroadsguy 3y ago
        Okay, a bubble for you to be burst: > Android developer and an iOS user, huh? That's quite the rare combination. It’s not. I am in the field and it’s totally not so, especially if you are talking about USA. Besides de-facto dev machine (in android dev world as well) is a Mac, so probably that’s a contributing cause, but anyway I have no large scale data on this. > I'm sure you're very knowledgeable about both platforms Really? Why would you have that doubt? I use both the phones extensively for multiple hours a day - at least every working day. I read about the feature set, releases, read dev docs etc of both the platforms regularly - and also do extensive discussion among team (the mobile team) as well how our competitors are using the mobile ecosystem. So yeah I actually know what I am talking about. And you? That I am not sure :) > you have to be so condescending Ah, I don’t think I was. Apologies if it came across that way. It was just a knee-jerk of a shitty response to a very similar comment and I am totally fine with that. If I have to reply to a similar comment in future it’d be in the same tone or mo response at all; I should have gone for the latter. > Maybe you're just a masochist. See, now you are being an idiot. God, HN is full of us ;-) > Or maybe you're just afraid to admit that you're wrong. Awww. What an insightful twist of a comment. Genius
lxgr 3y ago
> the EU forced the inferior USB-C on the world Ah yes, I too am still recovering from the huge step backwards of suddenly being able to charge my laptop and phone using the same charging cable. > now they wanr shitty apps being exposed to people who are paying extra for quality Oh boy, you should avoid the App Store – not sure if you've noticed, but they have a bad app or two in there! But I'll share an advanced strategy on how to deal with these with you: Just don't install them. > My prefernece as a consumer is being taken away to appease the ideology of tyrants. Selling iPhones in Europe is entirely optional for Apple. But if they choose to, they better comply with local consumer laws.
- _8j50 3y ago
  > Ah yes, I too am still recovering from the huge step backwards of suddenly being able to charge my laptop and phone using the same charging cable. That was never a problem for me. Having two cables is not exactly a nightmare. Usb-c is invferior because the male end is on the device, when it breaks the device breaks. Lightning has the opposite, so you may need to replace a cable but there is no connector sticking out of the device subject to constant wear and tear. Lightning by default is faster, has more copper strands and interference resistance. Regardelss of all this, you people's problem is everything is politics, you used the term "backwards" as if it was a progressivism thing. Apple is not a public service company, it makes really popular commercial products, they are free to make inferior (in your opinion) products and sell them at any price. > Oh boy, you should avoid the App Store – not sure if you've noticed, but they have a bad app or two in there! But I'll share an advanced strategy on how to deal with these with you: Just don't install them Apple? I am sure they have bad apps, but by bad I meant malicious as in malware that ruins people's lives. It's just not comparable with android. Android is still a freaking wild west. There is also the question of apple and its users wanting it gatekept. I used android for over a decade before switching to ios, i vehemently hate apple as a company yet the quality of their product is so good, I consider making apple like android a collective punishment of apple users. Android is a nightmare for me, bur again I ask why do you not just use android and let us apple users alone to vote with our wallet. Why do you prefer totalitarian tyranny? > Selling iPhones in Europe is entirely optional for Apple. But if they choose to, they better comply with local consumer laws. I agree but EU law as it standa is socialist tyranny. EU consumers can buy android and force apple to use usb-c. But the tyranny here is that both android and ios makers are in the US and EU law makers' decision is affecting the US and the world. Honestly, I did think socialism done moderately was a good thing but this sort of stuff has turned me sour. Oppression and tyranny don't suddenly become a good thing because you are popular or have good intentions. It is ridiculous to me that you are telling me I can't pay a company to give me goods I like with my hard earned money because you are my f@cking nanny and get to decide what I am allowed to like??

by _8j50 3y ago

crossroadsguy 3y ago

iOS is neither reliable, nor pleasant to use.

_8j50 3y ago
Enjoy android or the platform of your choice then? I you too are not so self-centered that you can't fathom others having a different taste and opinion than you.
- crossroadsguy 3y ago
  [flagged]
  - halJordan 3y ago
    If you have to tell people you definitely know what you're talking about in the same breath you call them stupid- then i think we can just assume the opposite of what you say in all cases
    - crossroadsguy 3y ago
      > you definitely know what you're talking about in the same breath you call them stupid But what if I know they are being stupid and that is what I am pointing out? No, really.
  - marinesebastian 3y ago
    Oh, so you're an Android developer and an iOS user, huh? That's quite the rare combination. I'm sure you're very knowledgeable about both platforms, but that doesn't mean you have to be so condescending. If iOS is so unreliable and unpleasant to use, why do you keep using it? Maybe you're just a masochist. Or maybe you're just afraid to admit that you're wrong.
    - crossroadsguy 3y ago
      Okay, a bubble for you to be burst: > Android developer and an iOS user, huh? That's quite the rare combination. It’s not. I am in the field and it’s totally not so, especially if you are talking about USA. Besides de-facto dev machine (in android dev world as well) is a Mac, so probably that’s a contributing cause, but anyway I have no large scale data on this. > I'm sure you're very knowledgeable about both platforms Really? Why would you have that doubt? I use both the phones extensively for multiple hours a day - at least every working day. I read about the feature set, releases, read dev docs etc of both the platforms regularly - and also do extensive discussion among team (the mobile team) as well how our competitors are using the mobile ecosystem. So yeah I actually know what I am talking about. And you? That I am not sure :) > you have to be so condescending Ah, I don’t think I was. Apologies if it came across that way. It was just a knee-jerk of a shitty response to a very similar comment and I am totally fine with that. If I have to reply to a similar comment in future it’d be in the same tone or mo response at all; I should have gone for the latter. > Maybe you're just a masochist. See, now you are being an idiot. God, HN is full of us ;-) > Or maybe you're just afraid to admit that you're wrong. Awww. What an insightful twist of a comment. Genius

lxgr 3y ago

> the EU forced the inferior USB-C on the world Ah yes, I too am still recovering from the huge step backwards of suddenly being able to charge my laptop and phone using the same charging cable. > now they wanr shitty apps being exposed to people who are paying extra for quality Oh boy, you should avoid the App Store – not sure if you've noticed, but they have a bad app or two in there! But I'll share an advanced strategy on how to deal with these with you: Just don't install them. > My prefernece as a consumer is being taken away to appease the ideology of tyrants. Selling iPhones in Europe is entirely optional for Apple. But if they choose to, they better comply with local consumer laws.

_8j50 3y ago
> Ah yes, I too am still recovering from the huge step backwards of suddenly being able to charge my laptop and phone using the same charging cable. That was never a problem for me. Having two cables is not exactly a nightmare. Usb-c is invferior because the male end is on the device, when it breaks the device breaks. Lightning has the opposite, so you may need to replace a cable but there is no connector sticking out of the device subject to constant wear and tear. Lightning by default is faster, has more copper strands and interference resistance. Regardelss of all this, you people's problem is everything is politics, you used the term "backwards" as if it was a progressivism thing. Apple is not a public service company, it makes really popular commercial products, they are free to make inferior (in your opinion) products and sell them at any price. > Oh boy, you should avoid the App Store – not sure if you've noticed, but they have a bad app or two in there! But I'll share an advanced strategy on how to deal with these with you: Just don't install them Apple? I am sure they have bad apps, but by bad I meant malicious as in malware that ruins people's lives. It's just not comparable with android. Android is still a freaking wild west. There is also the question of apple and its users wanting it gatekept. I used android for over a decade before switching to ios, i vehemently hate apple as a company yet the quality of their product is so good, I consider making apple like android a collective punishment of apple users. Android is a nightmare for me, bur again I ask why do you not just use android and let us apple users alone to vote with our wallet. Why do you prefer totalitarian tyranny? > Selling iPhones in Europe is entirely optional for Apple. But if they choose to, they better comply with local consumer laws. I agree but EU law as it standa is socialist tyranny. EU consumers can buy android and force apple to use usb-c. But the tyranny here is that both android and ios makers are in the US and EU law makers' decision is affecting the US and the world. Honestly, I did think socialism done moderately was a good thing but this sort of stuff has turned me sour. Oppression and tyranny don't suddenly become a good thing because you are popular or have good intentions. It is ridiculous to me that you are telling me I can't pay a company to give me goods I like with my hard earned money because you are my f@cking nanny and get to decide what I am allowed to like??