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You would have found the UN all onboard with Nazi Germany. "All those innocent Germans! You can't bomb them for the decisions of Hitler (ignoring that like Ham

You would have found the UN all onboard with Nazi Germany. "All those innocent Germans! You can't bomb them for the decisions of Hitler (ignoring that like Hamas, Hitler was popularly elected)!"

misterbishop 3y ago
Hamas isn't Hitler/Nazis, this is an insane analogy. Israeli elites prefer Hamas to secular political resistance of the Palestinians: Despite its enmity with Hamas, Israel has, over the years, viewed it as a useful counterweight to Fatah. The Israeli right, in particular, has viewed the bitter Hamas-Fatah rift as a guarantee that Palestinian leadership will never unite in support of a peace agreement, or even a unified front to demand Palestinian independence. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-09/ty-article/.premium/what-is-hamas-the-militant-group-that-attacked-israel-and-controls-gaza/0000018b-1359-d465-abbb-17ffb1cc0000 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-09/ty-article/.p... Also, YES it is wrong to do collective punishment to civilians in retaliation for their political leadership. What the Allies did to Dresden is widely and rightly regarded as an atrocity: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/13/world/europe/dresden-germany-anniversary.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/13/world/europe/dresden-germ...
- ecmascript 3y ago
  You're right, they aren't nazis. They are even worse.
  - megous 3y ago
    Because?
    - ecmascript 3y ago
      * The nazis had a functioning society * The nazis wanted a functioning society * The nazi beliefs weren't based on religion * The nazis weren't anti-science and made scientific progress * The nazis were well dressed I think that is the gist of it even if I probably could think of more points. Never thought that I was about to defend the nazis but honestly even if they were evil af Hamas and other groups are worse because I think it boils down to there is no logic behind any of their reasoning
timeon 3y ago
What is the point of your fantasy?
- throwawaysleep 3y ago
  Listening to the UN would have led to Nazi Germany existing today.

You would have found the UN all onboard with Nazi Germany. "All those innocent Germans! You can't bomb them for the decisions of Hitler (ignoring that like Hamas, Hitler was popularly elected)!"

misterbishop 3y ago

Hamas isn't Hitler/Nazis, this is an insane analogy. Israeli elites prefer Hamas to secular political resistance of the Palestinians: Despite its enmity with Hamas, Israel has, over the years, viewed it as a useful counterweight to Fatah. The Israeli right, in particular, has viewed the bitter Hamas-Fatah rift as a guarantee that Palestinian leadership will never unite in support of a peace agreement, or even a unified front to demand Palestinian independence. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-09/ty-article/.premium/what-is-hamas-the-militant-group-that-attacked-israel-and-controls-gaza/0000018b-1359-d465-abbb-17ffb1cc0000 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-09/ty-article/.p... Also, YES it is wrong to do collective punishment to civilians in retaliation for their political leadership. What the Allies did to Dresden is widely and rightly regarded as an atrocity: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/13/world/europe/dresden-germany-anniversary.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/13/world/europe/dresden-germ...

ecmascript 3y ago
You're right, they aren't nazis. They are even worse.
- megous 3y ago
  Because?
  - ecmascript 3y ago
    * The nazis had a functioning society * The nazis wanted a functioning society * The nazi beliefs weren't based on religion * The nazis weren't anti-science and made scientific progress * The nazis were well dressed I think that is the gist of it even if I probably could think of more points. Never thought that I was about to defend the nazis but honestly even if they were evil af Hamas and other groups are worse because I think it boils down to there is no logic behind any of their reasoning

timeon 3y ago

What is the point of your fantasy?

throwawaysleep 3y ago
Listening to the UN would have led to Nazi Germany existing today.