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Not really, no. Case in point: https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-9-7940HS-analysis-Zen4-Phoenix-is-ideally-as-efficient-as-Apple.713395.0.html#toc-6 http

Not really, no. Case in point: https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-9-7940HS-analysis-Zen4-Phoenix-is-ideally-as-efficient-as-Apple.713395.0.html#toc-6 https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-9-7940HS-analysis-Ze... Adjusting the TDP from 80W all the way down to 35W costs you relatively little in performance and gives you about the same efficiency as an M2 Pro. That is not done because it does not sell. > Don't desktop users desire for their powerful machine to also be quiet? No. That is not an "also" but an "instead". People claim they would make that trade-off but that is just not the case. Same for "make it heavier but give me more battery life".

bgirard 3y ago
If I can tuck away my desktop under my desk and it acts as a large space heater in the below zero winter I don't mind if it's helping me get my compiles down faster. There's some jobs I want a fast desktop for and other jobs, like browsing cooking recipes, I'll take my M1 macbook air for.
arcticbull 3y ago
> That is not done because it does not sell. It's not done because it doesn't sell in the PC market. Apple's kind of your only choice and if they say you're getting perf/W you're getting perf/W :) > People claim they would make that trade-off but that is just not the case. It's not 2 dimensional, tdp vs noise. It's tdp vs size vs noise vs price. You get a large ATX mid-tower and throw some Noctua 140mm fans in there and you won't hear a thing as it dispenses 1KW of heat into your feet area.
faeriechangling 3y ago
>Same for "make it heavier but give me more battery life". Consumers purchase large, heavy phones more than one would expect given their pricing and one of the reason they do so is that they have better battery life.