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I've never seen anyone talk about how we have this underclass of internet user that subsidizes the services of everyone more tech-savvy because they don't use a

I've never seen anyone talk about how we have this underclass of internet user that subsidizes the services of everyone more tech-savvy because they don't use ad-blockers. I'm a big proponent of these crackdowns and hope we see a renormalization of the subscription model.

vorticalbox 3y ago
Ads mostly make money for Google not the channel owners, there is a reason most creators look to other services (sponcers, patron, etc)
- jsnell 3y ago
  That's not true. The revenue share has been stable at 55% to the creators / 45% to YouTube for more than a decade.
  - solardev 3y ago
    Youtube takes half their revenue?! That's crazy. Man, I thought the app store 30% was bad.
    - hombre_fatal 3y ago
      That's for ads. After a quick googling, Youtube takes 30% of direct memberships. And apparently Twitch takes 50% of the membership fee, reduced to 40% for its bigger channels. It looks like Patreon will take 12% of direct memberships at the tier that lets you upload video, but Patreon is shit for discovery, especially video discovery, so it's not necessarily pure upside. Either way, people like to parlay the fact that Youtube has a revenue share into some sort of moral justification for giving the content creators $0 on that platform.
    - vorticalbox 3y ago
      Someone has to pay for bandwidth,storage, compute etc.
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    - PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
      What cracks me up is that this is the obvious perspective, but not the one the poster you responded to ever considered.
- hombre_fatal 3y ago
  This is trivially untrue. Youtube content creators are the ones who turn on ads and receive the majority revenue share from ads. They also make money from Youtube Premium subscribers, and users can even directly subscribe to channels on Youtube for a monthly fee just like on Patreon. All of those tools are already there on Youtube, so I'm not convinced the crackdown is changing the dynamic for content creators nor for the users who make them money.
  - bluish29 3y ago
    As someone who never posted a video, I want to ask if I upload a video without turning on the ads, does this mean that people who are watching this video will not see any ads?
    - ChoGGi 3y ago
      I believe you need to have a certain amount of subscribers before you have the option to turn them off.
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zeroCalories 3y ago
It's always funny watching people try to justify why their freeloading is actually moral and/or beneficial for others. And I don't particularly care for subscriptions, but youtube is actually a really good deal.
- pauldenton 3y ago
  How much do you pay to use this site Freeloader?

vorticalbox 3y ago

Ads mostly make money for Google not the channel owners, there is a reason most creators look to other services (sponcers, patron, etc)

jsnell 3y ago
That's not true. The revenue share has been stable at 55% to the creators / 45% to YouTube for more than a decade.
- solardev 3y ago
  Youtube takes half their revenue?! That's crazy. Man, I thought the app store 30% was bad.
  - hombre_fatal 3y ago
    That's for ads. After a quick googling, Youtube takes 30% of direct memberships. And apparently Twitch takes 50% of the membership fee, reduced to 40% for its bigger channels. It looks like Patreon will take 12% of direct memberships at the tier that lets you upload video, but Patreon is shit for discovery, especially video discovery, so it's not necessarily pure upside. Either way, people like to parlay the fact that Youtube has a revenue share into some sort of moral justification for giving the content creators $0 on that platform.
  - vorticalbox 3y ago
    Someone has to pay for bandwidth,storage, compute etc.
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  - PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
    What cracks me up is that this is the obvious perspective, but not the one the poster you responded to ever considered.
hombre_fatal 3y ago
This is trivially untrue. Youtube content creators are the ones who turn on ads and receive the majority revenue share from ads. They also make money from Youtube Premium subscribers, and users can even directly subscribe to channels on Youtube for a monthly fee just like on Patreon. All of those tools are already there on Youtube, so I'm not convinced the crackdown is changing the dynamic for content creators nor for the users who make them money.
- bluish29 3y ago
  As someone who never posted a video, I want to ask if I upload a video without turning on the ads, does this mean that people who are watching this video will not see any ads?
  - ChoGGi 3y ago
    I believe you need to have a certain amount of subscribers before you have the option to turn them off.

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zeroCalories 3y ago

It's always funny watching people try to justify why their freeloading is actually moral and/or beneficial for others. And I don't particularly care for subscriptions, but youtube is actually a really good deal.

pauldenton 3y ago
How much do you pay to use this site Freeloader?