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In my experience working at a 4DWW company I saw the opposite. The happiest were the oldest, most established workers, because they had already ticked off all

In my experience working at a 4DWW company I saw the opposite. The happiest were the oldest, most established workers, because they had already ticked off all so many life goals, had a house, a dog, kids, etc and so less money and more time was great. In contrast the youngest workers had no stable housing, and wanted more money more than they wanted time, because they wanted an ability to buy themselves some of those lifestyle things the older workers already had (read: stable housing). In practice the young workers that needed more money simply used the other day for another job, which was their right. This was in an environment with a dysfunctional unaffordable housing market, so maybe this all just shows how important affordable housing is and how it eventually starts to trumps all other issues.

doctorwho42 3y ago
"so maybe this all just shows how important affordable housing is and how it eventually starts to Trump all other issues." Of course it does, and why anyone would think otherwise has baffled me my entire adult life. (1) in any survival class, for me boyscouts, you learn that first priority in any survival setting is shelter. (2) anyone living in the US in the last 60 years and has paid any attention to the homeless know how fast your life falls apart when you don't have a home. Countless stories of someone having a traumatic life event, and then being evicted with their entire life being tossed out on the curb by an uncaring landlord (3) a shelter is safety, it is engrained in ourselves that we feel safer and more secure when we have a dedicated place that is permanent. So of course shelter/affordable housing trumps almost everything else, it always has and always will. It is surprising how society has been, seemingly, brainwashed with the idea that housing has to be (a) an investment vehicle and (b) done for obscene profits.
blitz_skull 3y ago
These companies are so rare, why wouldn't the younger workers just go find a job with higher pay and less time off? It's not like they're being forced to work at a 4-Day Work Week company... They're kind of unicorns to find in the first place.
- s1artibartfast 3y ago
  it makes a lot of sense to me. It has to do with the fixed quantities work can be found in. It is a matter of finding a combination that is compatible.
- Tiktaalik 3y ago
  There was at least one person I was aware of that did not like 4dww and left because they didn't want to do it. They were relatively young. But in general most stuck around. Possibly because yea 4DWW is rare so maybe they felt their money troubles were transitory and it's better to stay at the company and get more money in another way. I dunno.

doctorwho42 3y ago

"so maybe this all just shows how important affordable housing is and how it eventually starts to Trump all other issues." Of course it does, and why anyone would think otherwise has baffled me my entire adult life. (1) in any survival class, for me boyscouts, you learn that first priority in any survival setting is shelter. (2) anyone living in the US in the last 60 years and has paid any attention to the homeless know how fast your life falls apart when you don't have a home. Countless stories of someone having a traumatic life event, and then being evicted with their entire life being tossed out on the curb by an uncaring landlord (3) a shelter is safety, it is engrained in ourselves that we feel safer and more secure when we have a dedicated place that is permanent. So of course shelter/affordable housing trumps almost everything else, it always has and always will. It is surprising how society has been, seemingly, brainwashed with the idea that housing has to be (a) an investment vehicle and (b) done for obscene profits.

blitz_skull 3y ago

These companies are so rare, why wouldn't the younger workers just go find a job with higher pay and less time off? It's not like they're being forced to work at a 4-Day Work Week company... They're kind of unicorns to find in the first place.

s1artibartfast 3y ago
it makes a lot of sense to me. It has to do with the fixed quantities work can be found in. It is a matter of finding a combination that is compatible.
Tiktaalik 3y ago
There was at least one person I was aware of that did not like 4dww and left because they didn't want to do it. They were relatively young. But in general most stuck around. Possibly because yea 4DWW is rare so maybe they felt their money troubles were transitory and it's better to stay at the company and get more money in another way. I dunno.