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Sam Bankman-Fried and other FTX staff allegedly had 'Wirefraud' chat group (2022)

55 points by bitcharmer 3y ago

ackbar03 3y ago
Maybe these guys actually wanted to see the inside of a jail cell
mr_mitm 3y ago
(2022)
helsinkiandrew 3y ago
Old news and Sam Bankman-Fried says he wasn't a member anyway :-) https://twitter.com/SBF_FTX/status/1602419187296641024 https://twitter.com/SBF_FTX/status/1602419187296641024
- andy_ppp 3y ago
  He also claimed to be not guilty...
- belter 3y ago
  That settles it then....
- leosanchez 3y ago
  Most credible source
- broast 3y ago
  This tweet is quoted in the article
- Herbstluft 3y ago
  SBF isn't exactly a useful source on anything SBF does or doesn't do.
- rsynnott 3y ago
  A noted liar, who has just been convicted of multiple counts of fraud, says it's not real? Oh, well, mustn't be, then.
H8crilA 3y ago
Maybe they just practiced German on that group [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirecard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirecard
- read_if_gay_ 3y ago
  [flagged]
  - vasdae 3y ago
    Like when people here say orthogonal instead of unrelated. I puke in my mouth a little.
    - bigbillheck 3y ago
      You ought to get that checked out, it's bad for your esophagus.
lsmeducation 3y ago
These people partied a lot.
exabrial 3y ago
I’m not trying to defend him, so before you smash that downvote button don’t miss the message here... But taking someone’s personal communications out of context always looks bad. It’s actually something we need to be very careful with going forward into the future as a society. There are entire generations of kids whose life is completely recorded online somewhere now. Adults, roughly 36 years and older, didn’t have to live with this hanging over them. We have the potential to derail a lot of good people who in their youth may make poor choices. SBF is clearly not one of these people I feel is ‘misunderstood’, but let’s just recognize how easy it is to abuse this concept.
- ClumsyPilot 3y ago
  This is very poorly understood, there is a thread about EU regulsting facebool with plenty of people vlaiming that privacy is overvalued and irrelevant. The fact that these chats are saved forever is scary. i also have no sympathy for fraud, but if you ecpress something silly or spicy or plain stupid in communication with frieds, that should bot follow you forever. And thing said in Jest or with irony or with sarcasm will not translate well
  - exabrial 3y ago
    I disagree completely.
    - snypher 3y ago
      How do we reconcile 'haha funny joke' vs '65b loc for my girlfriend'? It seems transparent that this was a deliberate fraud and the group chat was named according.
      - ClumsyPilot 3y ago
        I am not defending these guys in particular. Screw them I am lamenting the general fact that you could be, erronously, accused of a crime in year 2055, and the prosecution will get to see your entire life. And then they show the jury this person has propensity to commit crime, they stole crisps from the supermarket at age of 12, they incorrectly filled in customs declaration when they were 19, they smuggled in Insulin from Canada at the age of 25, and they commited a felony by shipping a lobster in an incorrect container. at 30! They must be the killer!
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55 points by bitcharmer 3y ago

ackbar03 3y ago

Maybe these guys actually wanted to see the inside of a jail cell

mr_mitm 3y ago

(2022)

helsinkiandrew 3y ago

Old news and Sam Bankman-Fried says he wasn't a member anyway :-) https://twitter.com/SBF_FTX/status/1602419187296641024 https://twitter.com/SBF_FTX/status/1602419187296641024

andy_ppp 3y ago
He also claimed to be not guilty...
belter 3y ago
That settles it then....
leosanchez 3y ago
Most credible source
broast 3y ago
This tweet is quoted in the article
Herbstluft 3y ago
SBF isn't exactly a useful source on anything SBF does or doesn't do.
rsynnott 3y ago
A noted liar, who has just been convicted of multiple counts of fraud, says it's not real? Oh, well, mustn't be, then.

H8crilA 3y ago

Maybe they just practiced German on that group [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirecard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirecard

read_if_gay_ 3y ago
[flagged]
- vasdae 3y ago
  Like when people here say orthogonal instead of unrelated. I puke in my mouth a little.
  - bigbillheck 3y ago
    You ought to get that checked out, it's bad for your esophagus.

lsmeducation 3y ago

These people partied a lot.

exabrial 3y ago

I’m not trying to defend him, so before you smash that downvote button don’t miss the message here... But taking someone’s personal communications out of context always looks bad. It’s actually something we need to be very careful with going forward into the future as a society. There are entire generations of kids whose life is completely recorded online somewhere now. Adults, roughly 36 years and older, didn’t have to live with this hanging over them. We have the potential to derail a lot of good people who in their youth may make poor choices. SBF is clearly not one of these people I feel is ‘misunderstood’, but let’s just recognize how easy it is to abuse this concept.

ClumsyPilot 3y ago
This is very poorly understood, there is a thread about EU regulsting facebool with plenty of people vlaiming that privacy is overvalued and irrelevant. The fact that these chats are saved forever is scary. i also have no sympathy for fraud, but if you ecpress something silly or spicy or plain stupid in communication with frieds, that should bot follow you forever. And thing said in Jest or with irony or with sarcasm will not translate well
- exabrial 3y ago
  I disagree completely.
  - snypher 3y ago
    How do we reconcile 'haha funny joke' vs '65b loc for my girlfriend'? It seems transparent that this was a deliberate fraud and the group chat was named according.
    - ClumsyPilot 3y ago
      I am not defending these guys in particular. Screw them I am lamenting the general fact that you could be, erronously, accused of a crime in year 2055, and the prosecution will get to see your entire life. And then they show the jury this person has propensity to commit crime, they stole crisps from the supermarket at age of 12, they incorrectly filled in customs declaration when they were 19, they smuggled in Insulin from Canada at the age of 25, and they commited a felony by shipping a lobster in an incorrect container. at 30! They must be the killer!

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