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Could much of the low pressure complaints could be associated with required to use a flow restrictor in the showerhead?

happytiger 3y ago
Absolutely. There’s a correlation between popular states and low flow regulation too. If you are European and go on a regular trip to Vegas, Los Angeles, San Francisco and New York like so very many do you will literally be in low flow states the entire time. Isn’t that something? https://www.wilmar.com/info/low-flow-legislation https://www.wilmar.com/info/low-flow-legislation
- Physkal 3y ago
  I didn't know so many states require them, great info. Would be really interesting to hear from the hotel industry perspective what amount of customer complaints are largely due to regulatory decisions?
  - happytiger 3y ago
    Thanks! I have no objective data but there are lots of unintended consequences to well meaning regulation. Lots of good examples in the Law of Unintended Concequences: https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/2381/economics/law-of-unintended-consequences/ https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/2381/economics/law-of-uni... There are a lot of hotel issues that make it difficult for customers requiring accessibility. They can be fully in compliance with the ADA and the like, and consider themselves “accessible,” but the reality is far different. Lends some credence to the question of unintended side effects because they are meeting or exceeding the law’s standard but still not serving accessibility adequately. https://destinationsinternational.org/blog/seven-unintended-consequences-being-accessible-hotel https://destinationsinternational.org/blog/seven-unintended-...
userbinator 3y ago
I've seen talk on some forums of guests doing "restrictor deletes" where they stay. Unfortunately, but not surprisingly, it's a lot harder on newer fixtures, but on the older ones it's just a piece that is easily removed.
- underseacables 3y ago
  My Leatherman has come in handy for this exact reason. I have removed the low flow restrictor from a number of hotel showerheads.

Absolutely. There’s a correlation between popular states and low flow regulation too. If you are European and go on a regular trip to Vegas, Los Angeles, San Francisco and New York like so very many do you will literally be in low flow states the entire time. Isn’t that something? https://www.wilmar.com/info/low-flow-legislation https://www.wilmar.com/info/low-flow-legislation

Physkal 3y ago
I didn't know so many states require them, great info. Would be really interesting to hear from the hotel industry perspective what amount of customer complaints are largely due to regulatory decisions?
- happytiger 3y ago
  Thanks! I have no objective data but there are lots of unintended consequences to well meaning regulation. Lots of good examples in the Law of Unintended Concequences: https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/2381/economics/law-of-unintended-consequences/ https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/2381/economics/law-of-uni... There are a lot of hotel issues that make it difficult for customers requiring accessibility. They can be fully in compliance with the ADA and the like, and consider themselves “accessible,” but the reality is far different. Lends some credence to the question of unintended side effects because they are meeting or exceeding the law’s standard but still not serving accessibility adequately. https://destinationsinternational.org/blog/seven-unintended-consequences-being-accessible-hotel https://destinationsinternational.org/blog/seven-unintended-...

userbinator 3y ago

I've seen talk on some forums of guests doing "restrictor deletes" where they stay. Unfortunately, but not surprisingly, it's a lot harder on newer fixtures, but on the older ones it's just a piece that is easily removed.

underseacables 3y ago
My Leatherman has come in handy for this exact reason. I have removed the low flow restrictor from a number of hotel showerheads.