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Elon has many issues but a characterizing him as a “monster”? Sounds like an affirmation of someone whose heart isn’t really in what they are saying but they ha

Elon has many issues but a characterizing him as a “monster”? Sounds like an affirmation of someone whose heart isn’t really in what they are saying but they have to to toe the party line.

dboreham 3y ago
I've heard him described as "fascist curious".
junofan 3y ago
He’s a sorta autistic dude who sometimes talks to the public in a k-hole instead of going through a spokesperson like his peers. As far as the cars go, I think most Americans can see that spending an extra $10k on an EV Chevy isn’t gonna keep the Saudis from draining Ghawar Field. I wonder how cheap BYD and VinFast can get their imports.
- nicoburns 3y ago
  Americans can’t really point to other country’s emissions as an excuse though. They have by far the largest emissions per capita. And car ownership (where families frequently own multiple cars!) is a non-trivial portion of that. Individuals are admittedly not the best placed to fix this.
toomuchtodo 3y ago
It’s shorthand for “low empathy power hungry industrialist who is willing to destroy anyone who sleights him in the most minimal of ways, while dishing out abuse liberally to anyone who crosses his path” but that’s a mouthful. The dynamics are public in both books and online media covering him; a fresh, recent example is Grimes tweeting at his recent biographer “Tell Elon I want to see my kid.” Partners, workers, anyone really who Elon feels he has power over gets the brunt of his dysfunctional emotional configuration. Could not care less about his politics, it is about how he treats other humans. https://www.google.com/search?q=elon+abussive https://www.google.com/search?q=elon+abussive https://www.google.com/search?q=elon+petty https://www.google.com/search?q=elon+petty https://fortune.com/2023/09/12/elon-musk-walter-isaacson-book-empathy-video-games-life-lessons-management/ https://fortune.com/2023/09/12/elon-musk-walter-isaacson-boo... ("One of Elon Musk’s favorite video games taught him the ‘life lesson’ that ‘empathy is not an asset.’") https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/15/tesla-asked-cooley-to-fire-lawyer-who-worked-on-sec-elon-musk-probe.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/15/tesla-asked-cooley-to-fire-l... ("Tesla asked law firm to fire attorney who worked on Elon Musk probe at SEC, report says") https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/10/04/making-sense-of-grimes-cryptic-child-custody-claims-against-elon-musk/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/10/04/making-sense-of-grime... ("Grimes sues Elon Musk after she said he wouldn’t let her see their son") > Indeed, reports and Grimes’ since-deleted social media posts indicate that the situation has become rather ugly, with allegations that Musk is being a controlling bully. In posts last month on Musk’s X platform, Grimes alleged that he wasn’t allowing her to see one of their children and threatened to take him to court unless he let her see her son or responded to her lawyer. She said the situation was “utterly ripping my family apart.” I’ll ask one of the folks tracking Elon facts publicly to aggregate all of the citations on the topic, so the next time I say “monster” a simple URL citation will do. As a high empathy human, I fully stand behind my characterization based on all available public evidence. Hurt people hurt people I suppose.

Elon has many issues but a characterizing him as a “monster”? Sounds like an affirmation of someone whose heart isn’t really in what they are saying but they have to to toe the party line.

dboreham 3y ago

I've heard him described as "fascist curious".

junofan 3y ago

He’s a sorta autistic dude who sometimes talks to the public in a k-hole instead of going through a spokesperson like his peers. As far as the cars go, I think most Americans can see that spending an extra $10k on an EV Chevy isn’t gonna keep the Saudis from draining Ghawar Field. I wonder how cheap BYD and VinFast can get their imports.

nicoburns 3y ago
Americans can’t really point to other country’s emissions as an excuse though. They have by far the largest emissions per capita. And car ownership (where families frequently own multiple cars!) is a non-trivial portion of that. Individuals are admittedly not the best placed to fix this.

toomuchtodo 3y ago

It’s shorthand for “low empathy power hungry industrialist who is willing to destroy anyone who sleights him in the most minimal of ways, while dishing out abuse liberally to anyone who crosses his path” but that’s a mouthful. The dynamics are public in both books and online media covering him; a fresh, recent example is Grimes tweeting at his recent biographer “Tell Elon I want to see my kid.” Partners, workers, anyone really who Elon feels he has power over gets the brunt of his dysfunctional emotional configuration. Could not care less about his politics, it is about how he treats other humans. https://www.google.com/search?q=elon+abussive https://www.google.com/search?q=elon+abussive https://www.google.com/search?q=elon+petty https://www.google.com/search?q=elon+petty https://fortune.com/2023/09/12/elon-musk-walter-isaacson-book-empathy-video-games-life-lessons-management/ https://fortune.com/2023/09/12/elon-musk-walter-isaacson-boo... ("One of Elon Musk’s favorite video games taught him the ‘life lesson’ that ‘empathy is not an asset.’") https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/15/tesla-asked-cooley-to-fire-lawyer-who-worked-on-sec-elon-musk-probe.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/15/tesla-asked-cooley-to-fire-l... ("Tesla asked law firm to fire attorney who worked on Elon Musk probe at SEC, report says") https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/10/04/making-sense-of-grimes-cryptic-child-custody-claims-against-elon-musk/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/10/04/making-sense-of-grime... ("Grimes sues Elon Musk after she said he wouldn’t let her see their son") > Indeed, reports and Grimes’ since-deleted social media posts indicate that the situation has become rather ugly, with allegations that Musk is being a controlling bully. In posts last month on Musk’s X platform, Grimes alleged that he wasn’t allowing her to see one of their children and threatened to take him to court unless he let her see her son or responded to her lawyer. She said the situation was “utterly ripping my family apart.” I’ll ask one of the folks tracking Elon facts publicly to aggregate all of the citations on the topic, so the next time I say “monster” a simple URL citation will do. As a high empathy human, I fully stand behind my characterization based on all available public evidence. Hurt people hurt people I suppose.