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I spent the first 10 years of my working life without a car. Then bought one just to see what was going to happen. Here are some niceties of car ownership: - N

by sasaf5 3y ago

I spent the first 10 years of my working life without a car. Then bought one just to see what was going to happen. Here are some niceties of car ownership: - No need to plan around transportation times. - Staying at the party after the last subway: the crowd changes a lot. - Intimate conversation with friends/partner, while listening to music of your choice. - Dressing up without worrying about others staring. It applies to your passengers too! You will see your friends really thankful for your ride, wearing suits/dresses/high heels! - Hability to change destination on the go. - Having a strong excuse not to drink, then partying till 6am, waking up without a hangover and going straight to the gym. - Going to wherever after work on a Friday night. I never regretted it.

persnickety 3y ago
Most of those are also perks of having a bicycle :)
- sasaf5 3y ago
  Just gotta get custom made SPD dress shoes :)
- Tade0 3y ago
  Terms and conditions apply. I'm currently running an errand and I took an Uber here because it's absolutely pouring at the moment and I don't need this sort of excitement in my life.
earthscienceman 3y ago
The crowd at a party changes a lot after the last metro because everyone left it is the sort of person to take the first metro in the morning, not because they have cars.
- sasaf5 3y ago
  And some people arrive with the last metro :)
porknubbins 3y ago
The dressing up is an interesting one. I always felt uncomfortable wearing formalwear on the subway in rougher areas at night. No one bothered me though ( because of clothes, I got the usual aggressive riders other times).
- sasaf5 3y ago
  It affects one gender a lot more than the other.
  - wkat4242 3y ago
    Not here really. I go to pretty kinky parties and I often find myself on the metro with other partygoers. One time pretty recently there was fellow partygoer (unknown to me but clearly from the same party) who even had her boobs out in the metro (at 4am) and no comments or even weird looks were made. It made me happy seeing the tolerance and diversity (and, admittedly, the boobs too ;) ). Nobody was being weird or trying to sneak a photo or anything. Though strangely enough a friend of mine was told off by security for taking off her heels while sitting down (they hurt a bit) but at the same time ignoring the boobs girl altogether lol.
    - sasaf5 3y ago
      European capital? Curious about such party scene ^^
      - wkat4242 3y ago
        Yes, Barcelona (not a capital though it is the capital of the state of Catalonia). Berlin is even (way) crazier by the way. Though I'm not sure how they would deal with this in public there, Germans can be a bit more formal in that sense :)
        yvdriess 3y ago
        Germans are more accepting of nudity than most other countries, there are very few laws against it. Partly it's a legacy of the FKK (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freik%C3%B6rperkultur https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freik%C3%B6rperkultur).
Tade0 3y ago
> Intimate conversation with friends/partner, while listening to music of your choice. My friend used to drive a car that we dubbed "the car of truth". Many honest conversations have been had in there.
timeon 3y ago
> - No need to plan around transportation times. Except for the rush hour. When I did ~25km commute one way I had to think when I should leave with the car. With bicycle, time was constant, so I was free to choose when I could leave. > - Staying at the party after the last subway: the crowd changes a lot. > - Having a strong excuse not to drink Car is good excuse not to drink - I have used that excuse myself. But there are other ways - you do not need car for this. It does not work both ways: if you want to drink, with car you can not. My point is: car is convenience not freedom.
- lotsofpulp 3y ago
  Convenience and freedom seem interchangeable here. Car is freedom to stay late. Public transit is freedom to drink.
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rsynnott 3y ago
> No need to plan around transportation times. These two really depend on the system and frequency; non-issue for high-frequency underground systems, say. There'll be another one along in 3 minutes. > Staying at the party after the last subway: the crowd changes a lot. This depends a lot on the system as well. In Dublin, traditionally, we only had night buses on weekends, they were infrequent, and they used weird Frankenstein routes (they'd take like five normal routes, and make a route that passed _all the stops of all five_) so they took hours. In the last few years, a bunch of normal routes have started going 24 hours; makes things a lot easier. I was recently out inconveniently far from home, at 4 in the morning, resigning myself to an hour walk home, or else trying to somehow get a taxi, when I noticed that there was a bus coming in ten minutes at the stop outside the bar, which would bring me to five minutes walk from home.
local_crmdgeon 3y ago
You can still take public transit when you own a car. I do it all the time.

by sasaf5 3y ago

persnickety 3y ago

Most of those are also perks of having a bicycle :)

sasaf5 3y ago
Just gotta get custom made SPD dress shoes :)
Tade0 3y ago
Terms and conditions apply. I'm currently running an errand and I took an Uber here because it's absolutely pouring at the moment and I don't need this sort of excitement in my life.

earthscienceman 3y ago

The crowd at a party changes a lot after the last metro because everyone left it is the sort of person to take the first metro in the morning, not because they have cars.

sasaf5 3y ago
And some people arrive with the last metro :)

porknubbins 3y ago

The dressing up is an interesting one. I always felt uncomfortable wearing formalwear on the subway in rougher areas at night. No one bothered me though ( because of clothes, I got the usual aggressive riders other times).

sasaf5 3y ago
It affects one gender a lot more than the other.
- wkat4242 3y ago
  Not here really. I go to pretty kinky parties and I often find myself on the metro with other partygoers. One time pretty recently there was fellow partygoer (unknown to me but clearly from the same party) who even had her boobs out in the metro (at 4am) and no comments or even weird looks were made. It made me happy seeing the tolerance and diversity (and, admittedly, the boobs too ;) ). Nobody was being weird or trying to sneak a photo or anything. Though strangely enough a friend of mine was told off by security for taking off her heels while sitting down (they hurt a bit) but at the same time ignoring the boobs girl altogether lol.
  - sasaf5 3y ago
    European capital? Curious about such party scene ^^
    - wkat4242 3y ago
      Yes, Barcelona (not a capital though it is the capital of the state of Catalonia). Berlin is even (way) crazier by the way. Though I'm not sure how they would deal with this in public there, Germans can be a bit more formal in that sense :)
      - yvdriess 3y ago
        Germans are more accepting of nudity than most other countries, there are very few laws against it. Partly it's a legacy of the FKK (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freik%C3%B6rperkultur https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freik%C3%B6rperkultur).

Tade0 3y ago

> Intimate conversation with friends/partner, while listening to music of your choice. My friend used to drive a car that we dubbed "the car of truth". Many honest conversations have been had in there.

timeon 3y ago

> - No need to plan around transportation times. Except for the rush hour. When I did ~25km commute one way I had to think when I should leave with the car. With bicycle, time was constant, so I was free to choose when I could leave. > - Staying at the party after the last subway: the crowd changes a lot. > - Having a strong excuse not to drink Car is good excuse not to drink - I have used that excuse myself. But there are other ways - you do not need car for this. It does not work both ways: if you want to drink, with car you can not. My point is: car is convenience not freedom.

lotsofpulp 3y ago
Convenience and freedom seem interchangeable here. Car is freedom to stay late. Public transit is freedom to drink.

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rsynnott 3y ago

> No need to plan around transportation times. These two really depend on the system and frequency; non-issue for high-frequency underground systems, say. There'll be another one along in 3 minutes. > Staying at the party after the last subway: the crowd changes a lot. This depends a lot on the system as well. In Dublin, traditionally, we only had night buses on weekends, they were infrequent, and they used weird Frankenstein routes (they'd take like five normal routes, and make a route that passed _all the stops of all five_) so they took hours. In the last few years, a bunch of normal routes have started going 24 hours; makes things a lot easier. I was recently out inconveniently far from home, at 4 in the morning, resigning myself to an hour walk home, or else trying to somehow get a taxi, when I noticed that there was a bus coming in ten minutes at the stop outside the bar, which would bring me to five minutes walk from home.

local_crmdgeon 3y ago

You can still take public transit when you own a car. I do it all the time.