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They don't want to have to make EVs, they've said so repeatedly for years (mixed with the occasional "We know how to make the best EVs and we'll release them a
by webprofusion 3y ago
They don't want to have to make EVs, they've said so repeatedly for years (mixed with the occasional "We know how to make the best EVs and we'll release them a few years from now! Honest!".
Meanwhile they're being leapfrogged. Unless you work for Toyota or you have shares in them, it doesn't really matter.
- azinman2 3y agoExcept aren’t they the ones promising solid state batteries with insane range?
- Sparkyte 3y agofuture isn't solid state its ultracheap sodium ion once we figure out how to produce them properly
- azinman2 3y agoWhat makes you say that other than price and material availability? According to Wikipedia the energy density is lower, and it also seems to have less cycles. It looks like the only thing that’s better is a hypothetical price point and the elements required.
- adgjlsfhk1 3y agoprice and materials are what matter if you want to build a billion EVs
- Incipient 3y agoAnd recycling/disposal.
- Sparkyte 3y agoThere is a few benefits besides cost. The battery can handle 100,000 cycles, lithium ion 10,000 cycles. Can handle being dry and over charged (lithium can not). Can also handle wider range of temperatures. Only difference is the capacity which is only about 20% smaller but the resources needed to make sodium ion is about 60% cost reduction per equal part capacity. Only if we can fix the yield problem right now.
- toomuchtodo 3y agoYou can’t drive vaporware. It’s not real until you can buy it.
- taylodl 3y agoIt's real - they're working on scaling-out the production. Granted, they may not be successful in that endeavor, but that's not quite the same thing as calling it vaporware.
- luhn 3y ago> "We know how to make the best EVs and we'll release them a few years from now! Honest!"
- dehrmann 3y agoAt this point, being a a major battery OEM might be Toyota's best hope in the EV space.