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I love mine, but both mine and my wife's are probably $15k pricier than an equivalent ICE option. We'll likely not break even on gas savings during the period o

I love mine, but both mine and my wife's are probably $15k pricier than an equivalent ICE option. We'll likely not break even on gas savings during the period of our ownership. People like she and I, and I suspect you, are already bought in. Others however, especially those who aren't really swayed by the saved emissions, have to do the cost/benefit analysis for themselves.

kurthr 3y ago
Yeah, if there hadn't been unlimited supercharging it wouldn't have made as much sense, but I figure I'd have used 500gal a year (15km/30mpg). That's about $2500/yr so pay off time is about 6-8 years. If you're paying 20c/kWh then it's well over 10 years. However, the other experience I've seen is the near lack of required paid maintenance. That could easily come out to another $10k over 8-10yr, which would shorten the payoff. Of course that would hurt the dealers for the major Autos, and drive up their pricing.
- bdcravens 3y ago
  Yes, the maintenance is cheaper, but some automakers include maintenance for a period of time (I know the Toyotas I've owned included 2 years 24000 miles). I will say that $10k over 10 years seems expensive, though maintenance does tend to rise in time. Still, I'm guessing the cost is closer to $5k (assuming non-luxury brands)
01100011 3y ago
I really liked my EV, but I had subsidized charging at work. We only have one ICE car now. Every so often I consider upgrading to an EV or hybrid, but why? I'd be spending quite a lot to save very little. Now, I'll admit, getting gas at someplace like Costco can be a pain, but I just can't justify an EV. Also, my wife hated the EV. Sure, it was a Bolt so it wasn't that comfy, but she hated having to think about charging. She's fine dealing with gas. That right there kills it for us.
- maigret 3y ago
  You’re only “saving” with an ICE because CO2 is not appropriately priced. And there are other reasons to ditch petrol, like, what about our children future? Limiting the discussion to price is a limited way of thinking.
  - 01100011 3y ago
    No thanks. Those are problems for the world's rich to worry about. I have a budget and dependents to take care of. I'm not taking away from my dependents to change the time the earth becomes unlivable by 15 seconds.
    - dzader 3y ago
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    - throwaway5959 3y ago
      It’s wild to me that people with kids don’t care about how the planet will be for their children and grandchildren. I don’t even have kids of my own and I’m willing to alter my lifestyle to give future generations a better shot at having the same access to resources I have.
      - agensaequivocum 3y ago
        I have five kids and I am not in the slightest worried about the planet. It will be here and we will adapt if needed. I am much more worried about the elites stamping out our God given freedom and subjugating us to be told what to do by "experts" because we are just ignorant and don't know what's best for ourselves. No thank you.
  - city41 3y ago
    Money is a huge motivator. People will absolutely change their behavior to save money. It's also largely politically agnostic. Unless you're very wealthy, money impacts your life no matter how you feel about climate change or the environment.

kurthr 3y ago

Yeah, if there hadn't been unlimited supercharging it wouldn't have made as much sense, but I figure I'd have used 500gal a year (15km/30mpg). That's about $2500/yr so pay off time is about 6-8 years. If you're paying 20c/kWh then it's well over 10 years. However, the other experience I've seen is the near lack of required paid maintenance. That could easily come out to another $10k over 8-10yr, which would shorten the payoff. Of course that would hurt the dealers for the major Autos, and drive up their pricing.

bdcravens 3y ago
Yes, the maintenance is cheaper, but some automakers include maintenance for a period of time (I know the Toyotas I've owned included 2 years 24000 miles). I will say that $10k over 10 years seems expensive, though maintenance does tend to rise in time. Still, I'm guessing the cost is closer to $5k (assuming non-luxury brands)

01100011 3y ago

I really liked my EV, but I had subsidized charging at work. We only have one ICE car now. Every so often I consider upgrading to an EV or hybrid, but why? I'd be spending quite a lot to save very little. Now, I'll admit, getting gas at someplace like Costco can be a pain, but I just can't justify an EV. Also, my wife hated the EV. Sure, it was a Bolt so it wasn't that comfy, but she hated having to think about charging. She's fine dealing with gas. That right there kills it for us.

maigret 3y ago
You’re only “saving” with an ICE because CO2 is not appropriately priced. And there are other reasons to ditch petrol, like, what about our children future? Limiting the discussion to price is a limited way of thinking.
- 01100011 3y ago
  No thanks. Those are problems for the world's rich to worry about. I have a budget and dependents to take care of. I'm not taking away from my dependents to change the time the earth becomes unlivable by 15 seconds.
  - dzader 3y ago
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  - throwaway5959 3y ago
    It’s wild to me that people with kids don’t care about how the planet will be for their children and grandchildren. I don’t even have kids of my own and I’m willing to alter my lifestyle to give future generations a better shot at having the same access to resources I have.
    - agensaequivocum 3y ago
      I have five kids and I am not in the slightest worried about the planet. It will be here and we will adapt if needed. I am much more worried about the elites stamping out our God given freedom and subjugating us to be told what to do by "experts" because we are just ignorant and don't know what's best for ourselves. No thank you.
- city41 3y ago
  Money is a huge motivator. People will absolutely change their behavior to save money. It's also largely politically agnostic. Unless you're very wealthy, money impacts your life no matter how you feel about climate change or the environment.