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Next year isn't great timing as they'll be going up against Qualcomm's new Oryon CPU which looks to be both powerful and tiny (165mm2 with 12 full-size cores).
by hajile 3y ago
Next year isn't great timing as they'll be going up against Qualcomm's new Oryon CPU which looks to be both powerful and tiny (165mm2 with 12 full-size cores).
- onli 3y agoWill we have a working ARM Windows version next year? A translation layer in Windows and Linux to run x86 apps, like games? If not, and I think we won't, then the Qualcomm chip won't be a relevant alternative to the Ryzen processor.
- pinkgolem 3y agothat translation layer on windows exists, its just has pretty shit perfomance last time i checked it out. https://learn.microsoft.com/de-de/windows/arm/apps-on-arm-x86-emulation https://learn.microsoft.com/de-de/windows/arm/apps-on-arm-x8... In linux you have a pretty good support for just recompiling everything as native arm binarys, atleast server side it works without any problems for me.
- onli 3y agoI ran into problems with that on the server back then, but always only some edge cases - so that might work mostly now. But mentioning games was no accident - a slow translation layer won't cut it for them, and you can't recompile proprietary games. We have steam on Linux -> not supporting them is a non-starter. Worked for apple because they had no relevant gaming market share to begin with, and their translation layer actually worked well.
- hajile 3y agoNative devs need to start always cross-compiling their apps for multiple ISAs from the start. Outside of a very tiny amount writing their own SIMD assembly, this isn't usually a huge deal. WASM is also finally becoming a decent solution to not just cross-ISA, but cross-platform too. It's not yet performant enough for everything, but even among native stuff, I'd guess it's good enough for most.
- wmf 3y agoStrix Point sounds pretty close to Oryon.