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I think you missed the broader point. The point is there is a non-zero risk that dropping the embargo might enable Cuba to smuggle or develop weapons that coul

I think you missed the broader point. The point is there is a non-zero risk that dropping the embargo might enable Cuba to smuggle or develop weapons that could quickly hit anywhere in the Eastern half of the US or further, DC or elsewhere, with little or no warning or possibility of defense. You don't have to be a warmonger to see that any possibility of that is a non-starter.

rightbyte 3y ago
Sure. But there are satellites to watch for that, and I reckon that while the embargo might make manufacturing or importing some long range high explosive missiles somewhat harder, it is probably mainly a matter of will, which friendly ness is way better to counter. I mean Hamas seems to make missiles out of scrap.
- SkyMarshal 3y ago
  > But there are satellites to watch for that Satellites can detect a launch, but if the launch is very close to its target it's still difficult or impossible to react in time and defend against. Maybe the US has some new secret tech for that we haven't seen yet, but based on what we know publicly it doesn't. As you mention, Hamas has shown you can overwhelm expensive missile defense systems with quantity of cheap rockets, though the distance from Cuba to the US is much greater and that wouldn't work as well there. > friendly ness is way better to counter. That's what everyone believed in the 90s and why the US policy establishment pushed to integrate China and Russia and others into the WTO and global economy. But they now know it's not universally true. It works with some countries like Vietnam, but failed with others like China and Russia. It now depends on the particular circumstances of each country. Cuba's circumstances are that it's just too close to the US for comfort, and with a history of threatening the US with nukes. So there won't be any policy of friendliness toward Cuba unless it renounces single-party authoritarian rule and fully democratizes.

rightbyte 3y ago

Sure. But there are satellites to watch for that, and I reckon that while the embargo might make manufacturing or importing some long range high explosive missiles somewhat harder, it is probably mainly a matter of will, which friendly ness is way better to counter. I mean Hamas seems to make missiles out of scrap.

SkyMarshal 3y ago
> But there are satellites to watch for that Satellites can detect a launch, but if the launch is very close to its target it's still difficult or impossible to react in time and defend against. Maybe the US has some new secret tech for that we haven't seen yet, but based on what we know publicly it doesn't. As you mention, Hamas has shown you can overwhelm expensive missile defense systems with quantity of cheap rockets, though the distance from Cuba to the US is much greater and that wouldn't work as well there. > friendly ness is way better to counter. That's what everyone believed in the 90s and why the US policy establishment pushed to integrate China and Russia and others into the WTO and global economy. But they now know it's not universally true. It works with some countries like Vietnam, but failed with others like China and Russia. It now depends on the particular circumstances of each country. Cuba's circumstances are that it's just too close to the US for comfort, and with a history of threatening the US with nukes. So there won't be any policy of friendliness toward Cuba unless it renounces single-party authoritarian rule and fully democratizes.