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It's physical onion routing/proxying to obscure the true origin of the scams and spread it over such a wide area (the world), or such a powerful and wealthy are

It's physical onion routing/proxying to obscure the true origin of the scams and spread it over such a wide area (the world), or such a powerful and wealthy area (U.S.) that cutting off business in those regions is impossible because you'd put yourself out of business in doing so. The exit nodes, or true origins are the pockets of the folks running the whole scheme. Good luck finding them, and even if they are found, they are insanely wealthy, so nothing will come of it, because that's how the world works.

filoleg 3y ago
> they are insanely wealthy The OP mentions that the main guy running the SWAT service makes roughly $100k/mo at most. While it is certainly a lot of money, it isn’t even close to being “above the law.” The OP says that the service has been operating under a bunch of different names for somewhere close to a decade. Even though they certainly were not making $100k/mo from the beginning, let’s make the most generous assumptions possible and do some napkin math of the upper bound. 10 years = 120 months, so 120*100k = $12mil. And that’s the upper bound. That’s only a single order of magnitude more than what someone who bought a house in the US for about $600k a decade ago has in net worth (with the fairly realistic assumption that the value of it rose to at least $1mil), and there are tons and tons of those people.
- wutwutwat 3y ago
  > the main guy running the SWAT service makes roughly $100k/mo at most I can almost guarantee you that he wasn't the big fish/the end of the trail. His entire operation is just a proxy hop, one of many. $100k a month is an insane amount of money to me, and is more than enough to have power to buy people, lawyers, houses in countries that don't extradite or recognize the charges as crimes, and have people murdered. If you're not able to buy everyone around you with $100k every single month you're not even trying. I would assume anyway, who knows though lol buy == bribe/put in your pocket (just so it's not confused with literally buying people, which you could also do with that kind of money I'm assuming)
  - morkalork 3y ago
    It's a lot but it's not "buy yourself an American supreme court judge" levels of insane money. Anyways, those kind of criminals live in places like Russia and they don't live in a vacuum. They exist because the government and organized crime allow them to exist. Like a cute pet that pays kickbacks. I can't imagine being this flashy with I'll-gotten gains without being secure in the knowledge that everyone important has been paid off: https://www.businessinsider.com/millionaire-russian-hackers-evil-corp-car-pictures-video-2019-12 https://www.businessinsider.com/millionaire-russian-hackers-...

filoleg 3y ago

> they are insanely wealthy The OP mentions that the main guy running the SWAT service makes roughly $100k/mo at most. While it is certainly a lot of money, it isn’t even close to being “above the law.” The OP says that the service has been operating under a bunch of different names for somewhere close to a decade. Even though they certainly were not making $100k/mo from the beginning, let’s make the most generous assumptions possible and do some napkin math of the upper bound. 10 years = 120 months, so 120*100k = $12mil. And that’s the upper bound. That’s only a single order of magnitude more than what someone who bought a house in the US for about $600k a decade ago has in net worth (with the fairly realistic assumption that the value of it rose to at least $1mil), and there are tons and tons of those people.

wutwutwat 3y ago
> the main guy running the SWAT service makes roughly $100k/mo at most I can almost guarantee you that he wasn't the big fish/the end of the trail. His entire operation is just a proxy hop, one of many. $100k a month is an insane amount of money to me, and is more than enough to have power to buy people, lawyers, houses in countries that don't extradite or recognize the charges as crimes, and have people murdered. If you're not able to buy everyone around you with $100k every single month you're not even trying. I would assume anyway, who knows though lol buy == bribe/put in your pocket (just so it's not confused with literally buying people, which you could also do with that kind of money I'm assuming)
- morkalork 3y ago
  It's a lot but it's not "buy yourself an American supreme court judge" levels of insane money. Anyways, those kind of criminals live in places like Russia and they don't live in a vacuum. They exist because the government and organized crime allow them to exist. Like a cute pet that pays kickbacks. I can't imagine being this flashy with I'll-gotten gains without being secure in the knowledge that everyone important has been paid off: https://www.businessinsider.com/millionaire-russian-hackers-evil-corp-car-pictures-video-2019-12 https://www.businessinsider.com/millionaire-russian-hackers-...