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> That’s not comparable though since the deepfake is going to be photo-realistic and the image wasn’t just made but shared You can make a photorealistic drawin

> That’s not comparable though since the deepfake is going to be photo-realistic and the image wasn’t just made but shared You can make a photorealistic drawing too, that can pass as a real photography (and with enough skill it will be better than whatever generative models can produce). The difference here is the lower barrier to make the images. But I think that even a photorealistic drawing, if made and distributed to others, should be considered a form of harassment

meheleventyone 3y ago
I agree there’s no difference between making a fake photo-realistic image by hand or by AI. A crudely rendered drawing could also be a form of harassment as well but probably in different circumstances.
Wowfunhappy 3y ago
> But I think that even a photorealistic drawing, if made and distributed to others, should be considered a form of harassment. I agree, but critically, I think it's the harassment that matters, not the drawing. If someone draws something in the privacy of their own home (maybe or maybe not with the assistance of an AI), and the police find it in an unrelated search, they should have nothing to prosecute. Drawing is one way humans work through their thoughts and emotions; the act of putting pencil to paper—including digital pencil to digital paper—should never be illegal, lest we effectively create thought crime.
irrational 3y ago
Yes, when I was in college I took an art class where we had to cut a magazine picture in half, glue it to a piece of paper, then draw the other half. Mine was good enough that unless you got up close, you couldn’t tell which was the photo and which was my drawing. If someone had taken a picture of it, you wouldn’t have been able to tell at all. Photorealistic drawings are very possible.

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> That’s not comparable though since the deepfake is going to be photo-realistic and the image wasn’t just made but shared You can make a photorealistic drawin

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meheleventyone 3y ago
I agree there’s no difference between making a fake photo-realistic image by hand or by AI. A crudely rendered drawing could also be a form of harassment as well but probably in different circumstances.
Wowfunhappy 3y ago
> But I think that even a photorealistic drawing, if made and distributed to others, should be considered a form of harassment. I agree, but critically, I think it's the harassment that matters, not the drawing. If someone draws something in the privacy of their own home (maybe or maybe not with the assistance of an AI), and the police find it in an unrelated search, they should have nothing to prosecute. Drawing is one way humans work through their thoughts and emotions; the act of putting pencil to paper—including digital pencil to digital paper—should never be illegal, lest we effectively create thought crime.
irrational 3y ago
Yes, when I was in college I took an art class where we had to cut a magazine picture in half, glue it to a piece of paper, then draw the other half. Mine was good enough that unless you got up close, you couldn’t tell which was the photo and which was my drawing. If someone had taken a picture of it, you wouldn’t have been able to tell at all. Photorealistic drawings are very possible.