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For people wondering which of the links to click: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36857676 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36857676 It's mostly just

by belval 3y ago

For people wondering which of the links to click: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36857676 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36857676 It's mostly just the classic "nono if you don't agree it's because you don't understand" and "please educate yourself" approach.

whatshisface 3y ago
At least they didn't try, "I don't have time to educate you about why you're bad!"
mcpackieh 3y ago
> "P.S. I'd love to discuss this with y'all like professional adults. Can we do that?" You can tell somebody is a snake when they aren't from the South but use "y'all". It's become a sort of corporate snake shibboleth.
- jkaplowitz 3y ago
  Meh, it spreads a lot more broadly than the corporate snake people. And honestly I’ve never heard the corporate snakes use it myself (at least not before the example which you quoted), but I’m sure there are corporate snakes who do.
- duxup 3y ago
  I certainly think that a lot but I sure as hell wouldn’t say it. It doesn’t help, that discussion never goes well.
- dmoy 3y ago
  Uhhh, what? I use y'all 'cus that's how all the kids in my school talked growing up. I ditched a lot of the lexicon because after my family moved to the suburbs, I got made fun of by my new friends, literally calling me "less white". So no more finna', for example. I will die on the hill of having a good second person plural pronoun though.
  - ethbr1 3y ago
    Once you've used English with a second person plural pronoun, you can't go back. PS: "Yous guys" doesn't count
  - JohnFen 3y ago
    "y'all" is a bit fraught in the US because (incorrectly, in my opinion), in some parts the use is associated with certain unflattering cultural stereotypes. Not usually racial ones. > I will die on the hill of having a good second person plural pronoun though. I'm with you there -- we really need one, but I haven't found one that is broadly safe to use.
  - mcpackieh 3y ago
    If you actually grew up using it, then you're not who I'm talking about. The word, like "folks", has become part of the affected dialect used by corporate ass-kissers to tell other corporate ass-kissers what they're about. Used primarily by slimy management, HR and PR types. These types do not say finna, that isn't part of this affected dialect. If you say finna then you're not who I'm talking about.
    - Intralexical 3y ago
      …Okay, again, I really need/want there to be a gender-neutral plural familiarism like "guys", though, and "folks" fits great....
  - cmrdporcupine 3y ago
    Here in the rural parts of Ontario (well not in my rural part of Ontario, but further north), that pronoun is "youse" As a long boy visiting from Alberta I was astounded that this existed. It might be dying out tho
    - akdor1154 3y ago
      Exists in Australia, has connotations of rural government (un)education, youse can rip it from my cold dead hands because plural second person is fabulous.
- Intralexical 3y ago
  Look, it's either "y'all", "vous", or bringing back "thou" for the singular, okay?

by belval 3y ago

whatshisface 3y ago

At least they didn't try, "I don't have time to educate you about why you're bad!"

mcpackieh 3y ago

> "P.S. I'd love to discuss this with y'all like professional adults. Can we do that?" You can tell somebody is a snake when they aren't from the South but use "y'all". It's become a sort of corporate snake shibboleth.

jkaplowitz 3y ago
Meh, it spreads a lot more broadly than the corporate snake people. And honestly I’ve never heard the corporate snakes use it myself (at least not before the example which you quoted), but I’m sure there are corporate snakes who do.
duxup 3y ago
I certainly think that a lot but I sure as hell wouldn’t say it. It doesn’t help, that discussion never goes well.
dmoy 3y ago
Uhhh, what? I use y'all 'cus that's how all the kids in my school talked growing up. I ditched a lot of the lexicon because after my family moved to the suburbs, I got made fun of by my new friends, literally calling me "less white". So no more finna', for example. I will die on the hill of having a good second person plural pronoun though.
- ethbr1 3y ago
  Once you've used English with a second person plural pronoun, you can't go back. PS: "Yous guys" doesn't count
- JohnFen 3y ago
  "y'all" is a bit fraught in the US because (incorrectly, in my opinion), in some parts the use is associated with certain unflattering cultural stereotypes. Not usually racial ones. > I will die on the hill of having a good second person plural pronoun though. I'm with you there -- we really need one, but I haven't found one that is broadly safe to use.
- mcpackieh 3y ago
  If you actually grew up using it, then you're not who I'm talking about. The word, like "folks", has become part of the affected dialect used by corporate ass-kissers to tell other corporate ass-kissers what they're about. Used primarily by slimy management, HR and PR types. These types do not say finna, that isn't part of this affected dialect. If you say finna then you're not who I'm talking about.
  - Intralexical 3y ago
    …Okay, again, I really need/want there to be a gender-neutral plural familiarism like "guys", though, and "folks" fits great....
- cmrdporcupine 3y ago
  Here in the rural parts of Ontario (well not in my rural part of Ontario, but further north), that pronoun is "youse" As a long boy visiting from Alberta I was astounded that this existed. It might be dying out tho
  - akdor1154 3y ago
    Exists in Australia, has connotations of rural government (un)education, youse can rip it from my cold dead hands because plural second person is fabulous.
Intralexical 3y ago
Look, it's either "y'all", "vous", or bringing back "thou" for the singular, okay?