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There’s a reason why magazines ads are dying and being replaced by personalized ads. Advertising like that is widely inefficient. It’s easy to show ads. Not th

There’s a reason why magazines ads are dying and being replaced by personalized ads. Advertising like that is widely inefficient. It’s easy to show ads. Not that easy to make money from doing so. It’s as valid alternative as telling people to use horses instead of cars to reduce CO2 emissions. They both get from point A to B, right?

polygamous_bat 3y ago
> There’s a reason why magazines ads are dying and being replaced by personalized ads. Advertising like that is widely inefficient. Too bad, if your business model can’t make money without breaking laws and harming people’s rights, do you really deserve to stay in business? > It’s as valid alternative as telling people to use horses instead of cars to reduce CO2 emissions. They both get from point A to B, right? More like banning formula 1 cars from suburbs. People survived before without personalized ads, what will not survive is making 10-digits of profit every quarter and the associated butchery of our life and institutions in the pursuit of profit.
- foota 3y ago
  When you're debating the merits of the law in question, it doesn't seem like a valid defense to say "if they can't do business under the law then that's their fault". If I say "car dealers can't sell cars that go faster than 10mph and if they go out of business then they shouldn't exist", it's clearly fallacious, and I don't see how this is any different.
  - kaftoy 3y ago
    It is different. Rules and laws are supposed to make sense, but the one with 10 mph is not. There are limita to 250 kph in Europe and I dont see car dealers going down. Also, for years there are emissions regulators that make life hard for auto makers, but they obey and still sell cars.
    - shaftway 3y ago
      A law limiting top speed to 10 mph would have a massive reduction in accidents and fatalities. That makes sense to me.
    - avarun 3y ago
      > Rules and laws are supposed to make sense Agreed. So why do none of the EU's moronic laws make sense? Most normal people are happy when they come across a useful product or service as an ad in their Instagram feed. After these laws, that won't be possible anymore for an entire continent of people.
    - justapassenger 3y ago
      Anti-car folks will likely disagree with you that 10mph speed limit doesn't make sense.
- justapassenger 3y ago
  > Too bad, if your business model can’t make money without breaking laws and harming people’s rights, do you really deserve to stay in business? That's not the argument I'm making nor the comment I'm responding to. OP presented non-personalized ads as a viable alternative for their business. It's not. Let's not pretend it is. It's a totally different conversation from one you try to turn it into. > More like banning formula 1 cars from suburbs. It's not, unless there have been F1 cars in every suburb for last decade. I get it, you hate ads. Great. But that's not what we're talking about.
  - polygamous_bat 3y ago
    > It's not, unless there have been F1 cars in every suburb for last decade. So like banning lead from paint? Wouldn’t someone think of the poor paint makers and landlords?
itronitron 3y ago
Magazine ads are dying because no one buys magazines anymore except when they are in an airport.
rvba 3y ago
Magazines are dying due to a big wave of anti intellectualism, people not used to read, and people who are poor so they dont want to pay for media. Lots of young people think that the "free" (to read) "journalism" they get online is decent. When it is not. Because good writing and research costs a lot. Meanwhile some intern can write 5 crappy "articles" per day. Also it has been written many times, but the facebook feed has became total crap: for me 99% are ads and it does not show me any updates from friends. Faster is to go to profiles of friends then scroll through the drip feed that is not even infinite. Also the feed does not show things that I can see in my friends' profiles. But hey, some product manager thinks it is good for longevity of thr product. I can as well enter facebook once per month and manually open their profiles.

polygamous_bat 3y ago

> There’s a reason why magazines ads are dying and being replaced by personalized ads. Advertising like that is widely inefficient. Too bad, if your business model can’t make money without breaking laws and harming people’s rights, do you really deserve to stay in business? > It’s as valid alternative as telling people to use horses instead of cars to reduce CO2 emissions. They both get from point A to B, right? More like banning formula 1 cars from suburbs. People survived before without personalized ads, what will not survive is making 10-digits of profit every quarter and the associated butchery of our life and institutions in the pursuit of profit.

foota 3y ago
When you're debating the merits of the law in question, it doesn't seem like a valid defense to say "if they can't do business under the law then that's their fault". If I say "car dealers can't sell cars that go faster than 10mph and if they go out of business then they shouldn't exist", it's clearly fallacious, and I don't see how this is any different.
- kaftoy 3y ago
  It is different. Rules and laws are supposed to make sense, but the one with 10 mph is not. There are limita to 250 kph in Europe and I dont see car dealers going down. Also, for years there are emissions regulators that make life hard for auto makers, but they obey and still sell cars.
  - shaftway 3y ago
    A law limiting top speed to 10 mph would have a massive reduction in accidents and fatalities. That makes sense to me.
  - avarun 3y ago
    > Rules and laws are supposed to make sense Agreed. So why do none of the EU's moronic laws make sense? Most normal people are happy when they come across a useful product or service as an ad in their Instagram feed. After these laws, that won't be possible anymore for an entire continent of people.
  - justapassenger 3y ago
    Anti-car folks will likely disagree with you that 10mph speed limit doesn't make sense.
justapassenger 3y ago
> Too bad, if your business model can’t make money without breaking laws and harming people’s rights, do you really deserve to stay in business? That's not the argument I'm making nor the comment I'm responding to. OP presented non-personalized ads as a viable alternative for their business. It's not. Let's not pretend it is. It's a totally different conversation from one you try to turn it into. > More like banning formula 1 cars from suburbs. It's not, unless there have been F1 cars in every suburb for last decade. I get it, you hate ads. Great. But that's not what we're talking about.
- polygamous_bat 3y ago
  > It's not, unless there have been F1 cars in every suburb for last decade. So like banning lead from paint? Wouldn’t someone think of the poor paint makers and landlords?

itronitron 3y ago

Magazine ads are dying because no one buys magazines anymore except when they are in an airport.

rvba 3y ago

Magazines are dying due to a big wave of anti intellectualism, people not used to read, and people who are poor so they dont want to pay for media. Lots of young people think that the "free" (to read) "journalism" they get online is decent. When it is not. Because good writing and research costs a lot. Meanwhile some intern can write 5 crappy "articles" per day. Also it has been written many times, but the facebook feed has became total crap: for me 99% are ads and it does not show me any updates from friends. Faster is to go to profiles of friends then scroll through the drip feed that is not even infinite. Also the feed does not show things that I can see in my friends' profiles. But hey, some product manager thinks it is good for longevity of thr product. I can as well enter facebook once per month and manually open their profiles.