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>It's a lie of omission. but it's not? if you have an old bank receipt that says you have $450 in your account, but you actually have $310, you need to "get"
by fernandotakai 3y ago
>It's a lie of omission.
but it's not?
if you have an old bank receipt that says you have $450 in your account, but you actually have $310, you need to "get" a new receipt that has the newest value.
you do that by issuing git fetch origin. then you can git merge origin/master to make everything up-to-date.
- Y-bar 3y agoBank receipts always have a date and time, that's _exactly_ the point I am making, the omission is part of the lie.
- fernandotakai 3y agoyou are getting confused here. what you have is a "paper receipt" (your checked out version) from your bank. something that, if you need an up-to-date version (from another remote), you need to request a new one (by issuing git fetch). git is, by default, distributed, so whenever you need to see the world outside, you need to be explicit. linus made it this way because back in the day (not sure right now tbf) tons of kernel developers do work without any internet connection, and would only connect to pull/send patches. this talk[0] by linus from 2007 (i remember watching it on google videos lol) explains really well where the git mentality came from. i really recommend it to you, since it feels like you are not really getting how git works. [0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8
- SAI_Peregrinus 3y agoIf you have a paper recipt (git status) it tells you when it was up to date, so you can determine whether you need a new one. Git doesn't provide that info. That's the problem, not that it can be outdated, but that it omits the date/time!
- metabagel 3y agoIt’s a little offensive to tell another person that they are confused. If they are confused, they can say so.
- ksenzee 3y agoVery good point. “Up to date with origin/master as of 4 hours ago” would be an improvement.
- pests 3y agoThat is a lie though. Who knows if the remote has been updated? You wouldn't find out about that 4 hours until you did a fetch. You can't go to the hotel desk clerk and ask if you have any messages. Then for the next four hours keep telling people "the front desk has no messages for me" despite you not asking them in the last 4 hours. Things could change!
- ksenzee 3y agoNo, this is exactly like a receipt from the ATM. “Your bank balance is $300.00 as of 10/10/23 10:10.” That was weeks ago, so I know to ignore it. The wording can likely be improved. Maybe “You are up to date with origin/master as last fetched 4 hours ago”.
- pests 3y ago> That was weeks ago, so I know to ignore it. But you haven't talked to your bank, used an ATM, or been on the app in weeks! Your balance could be totally different - bills have came out, you got paid, interest, etc. You are making my point! You know to ignore it because its old, outdated information. Then why are you telling me this? How is it useful to me? Of course youre up to date with what you last fetched - that is _always_ the case. Why mention being up to date even? Just tell the user when they last synced with their remote(s).
- SAI_Peregrinus 3y agoYou're making their point! `git status`tells you the status as of whenever you last fetched, and omits that timestamp. You can't tell if it's outdated, because it doesn't tell you when the last update was!
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