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Grammarly editor writing services are malfunctioning

53 points by biscuits1 3y ago

aa_is_op 3y ago
Cloudflare API is down, so I think it's related to that
- mcpar-land 3y ago
  Extremely funny to think that there's now a clear line between "Cloudflare server goes down" -> "average grammar correctness in emails dips for a day"
- thekrendal 3y ago
  Which is related to the PDX area data center that went hard-down earlier this morning. This could easily be related as that DC seems to have housed a lot of cloud based service infrastructure.
  - swatcoder 3y ago
    Gee, that makes it sound like cloud-hosted products are susceptible to data center outages just like products that rely on colocated and contracted hosting. Impossible! /s
    - wongarsu 3y ago
      If half the internet is down, your customers won't complain about you being down as well /s
  - rednerrus 3y ago
    Which data center is down in PDX?
    - bithaze 3y ago
      Flexential PDX02, according to the outages mailing list[0]. [0] https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/outages/2023-November/014914.html https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/outages/2023-November/0149...
op00to 3y ago
Has the grammarly AI become sentient?
- atlasunshrugged 3y ago
  Humanity has misused Your and You're for the last time!
  - Ygg2 3y ago
    What about Yor? (Character from Spy X Family)
    - Karellen 3y ago
      That hasn't been incorporated into the model yet, because, unlike the others it hasn't been around since the days of yore.
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pokstad 3y ago
For thousands of years, human language has evolved and changed into what we have today. Now our AI overlords will keep our language static using a paid service. Imagine the new languages and dialects that could have been. Damn you Grammarly!!!
- s3p 3y ago
  what?
- lainga 3y ago
  No broadband in da Belt
  - mattdeboard 3y ago
    sasa ke, pampa
  - imperialdrive 3y ago
    Thank you for making my morning with that comment :D
  - Maxion 3y ago
    Tightbeam tolowda.
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- jowea 3y ago
  I think they said that too about standardizing schooling, mass media, mass communications, standardised national languages. Also, the real tinfoil hat is our AI overlords changing our language into AI-newspeak.
  - 3y ago
_ache_ 3y ago
There isn't a local free software alternative to Grammarly for english ? I means, to verify grammar and spelling, the AI part, I don't expect it to be local yet.
- dadoomer 3y ago
  Take a look at language tool. It's pretty good in my experience. I'm not a native speaker, though. (this post was not checked with languagetool)
- esalman 3y ago
  For a while I just used code spell checker extension in VSCode. It does not do grammar but otherwise seems sufficient for me.
- Maxion 3y ago
  ChatGPT.
  - 0x0000000 3y ago
    Neither local nor free?
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- kstrauser 3y ago
  https://vale.sh https://vale.sh is as close as I've found.
  - _ache_ 3y ago
    Nice ! Looks a lot like Alex from wooorm. Will check it out. Thank you !
    - kstrauser 3y ago
      You bet! I use it with this language server -- https://github.com/errata-ai/vale-ls https://github.com/errata-ai/vale-ls -- to live-check text in my editor.
TheRealNGenius 3y ago
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henry2023 3y ago
From time to time I used grammarly to adjust my writing style when sending an important e-mail. I paid a subscription to it. The day I typed my first question into ChatGPT I cancelled my gmrly subscription. If they'd a public stock I'll be shorting it so hard.
- thih9 3y ago
  Isn’t grammarly in a relatively good place as it already has an audience, a market fit and a way to expand its products with AI?
  - idopmstuff 3y ago
    I think their biggest issue is that every place where Grammarly is used (e.g. email clients, word processors) is owned by a much larger corporation with a huge investment in AI that can pretty easily launch a Grammarly replacement as a native feature.
    - thih9 3y ago
      True. At the same time this seems unrelated to “The day I typed my first question into ChatGPT”.
- PumpkinSpice 3y ago
  Why? The ChatGPT interface is not integrated with an editor and not really tailored for writing. I'd wager that most of the current Grammarly users would rather pay for a tailored tool than a chat window that excels at schooling you and refusing to do anything that doesn't align with OpenAI's sprawling brand safety rules. Of course, GPT-4 can be molded into an editing-centric companion, but I bet Grammarly is already working on that, and they might end up paying OpenAI for the technology. Brand recognition means that it's a lot easier for Grammarly to build that product than for a random third party to break through.
  - idopmstuff 3y ago
    > The ChatGPT interface is not integrated with an editor But all the editors where Grammarly is integrated are owned by Google/Microsoft/etc., who can natively implement a writing-tailored AI as a feature.
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XiphiasX 3y ago
When will GPT kill cancer that is grammarly already.
- phren0logy 3y ago
  Wow. How is grammarly a "cancer"? I mean, if you don't like it, it seems easy enough not to use it...
matrix12 3y ago
They've had some trouble with the arena allocator in the latest sbcl.
- tsuru 3y ago
  Wow. I didn't think this was production ready yet...
imankulov 3y ago
I was using Grammarly for a long time, but a while ago I made a wrapper around the OpenAI API to fix grammar and style and highlight the changes. - Demo: https://refiner.roman.pt/ https://refiner.roman.pt/. - Source: https://github.com/imankulov/refiner https://github.com/imankulov/refiner. For me it works better than Grammarly.
bertil 3y ago
Most comments are about using higher-level AI. It’s interesting because I have so much trouble getting Grammarly to work (I thought that announcement would justify the problem), but it’s far more prosaic than that: - the little indicator hides the content that I’m writing and can’t be moved; - if I dismiss a problem, it will ignore it for a second until I approve another one and immediately flag the first problem again; - occasionally, it won’t apply the recommended change; - some changes make the entire browser think I’m trying to reload or close the page… not sure, but the browser is not happy about that. - It occasionally overrides the editor in fairly catastrophic ways: puts the edited word and the rest of what I’ve written afterward somewhere random in the editing window, duplicating half of my response and overwriting entire paragraphs. It’s pretty destructive and frustrating, breaking Ctrl+Z and the entire editor. I’m impressed at how smart it is: detects unnecessary words, catches trailing 's's, and knows when to apply Oxford commas… but I’d love not to have to reload HN because editing five paragraphs in a '90s interface and its 40kb of overhead is enough to cause kernel panic.
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ulizzle 3y ago
What are some good Grammarly competitors out there? Not that I don't like it, but curious to see what else is going on.
effnorwood 3y ago
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53 points by biscuits1 3y ago

aa_is_op 3y ago

Cloudflare API is down, so I think it's related to that

mcpar-land 3y ago
Extremely funny to think that there's now a clear line between "Cloudflare server goes down" -> "average grammar correctness in emails dips for a day"
thekrendal 3y ago
Which is related to the PDX area data center that went hard-down earlier this morning. This could easily be related as that DC seems to have housed a lot of cloud based service infrastructure.
- swatcoder 3y ago
  Gee, that makes it sound like cloud-hosted products are susceptible to data center outages just like products that rely on colocated and contracted hosting. Impossible! /s
  - wongarsu 3y ago
    If half the internet is down, your customers won't complain about you being down as well /s
- rednerrus 3y ago
  Which data center is down in PDX?
  - bithaze 3y ago
    Flexential PDX02, according to the outages mailing list[0]. [0] https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/outages/2023-November/014914.html https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/outages/2023-November/0149...

op00to 3y ago

Has the grammarly AI become sentient?

atlasunshrugged 3y ago
Humanity has misused Your and You're for the last time!
- Ygg2 3y ago
  What about Yor? (Character from Spy X Family)
  - Karellen 3y ago
    That hasn't been incorporated into the model yet, because, unlike the others it hasn't been around since the days of yore.
    - deleted 3y ago
      [deleted]

pokstad 3y ago

For thousands of years, human language has evolved and changed into what we have today. Now our AI overlords will keep our language static using a paid service. Imagine the new languages and dialects that could have been. Damn you Grammarly!!!

s3p 3y ago
what?
lainga 3y ago
No broadband in da Belt
- mattdeboard 3y ago
  sasa ke, pampa
- imperialdrive 3y ago
  Thank you for making my morning with that comment :D
- Maxion 3y ago
  Tightbeam tolowda.
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deleted 3y ago
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jowea 3y ago
I think they said that too about standardizing schooling, mass media, mass communications, standardised national languages. Also, the real tinfoil hat is our AI overlords changing our language into AI-newspeak.
- 3y ago

_ache_ 3y ago

There isn't a local free software alternative to Grammarly for english ? I means, to verify grammar and spelling, the AI part, I don't expect it to be local yet.

dadoomer 3y ago
Take a look at language tool. It's pretty good in my experience. I'm not a native speaker, though. (this post was not checked with languagetool)
esalman 3y ago
For a while I just used code spell checker extension in VSCode. It does not do grammar but otherwise seems sufficient for me.
Maxion 3y ago
ChatGPT.
- 0x0000000 3y ago
  Neither local nor free?
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kstrauser 3y ago
https://vale.sh https://vale.sh is as close as I've found.
- _ache_ 3y ago
  Nice ! Looks a lot like Alex from wooorm. Will check it out. Thank you !
  - kstrauser 3y ago
    You bet! I use it with this language server -- https://github.com/errata-ai/vale-ls https://github.com/errata-ai/vale-ls -- to live-check text in my editor.

TheRealNGenius 3y ago

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henry2023 3y ago

From time to time I used grammarly to adjust my writing style when sending an important e-mail. I paid a subscription to it. The day I typed my first question into ChatGPT I cancelled my gmrly subscription. If they'd a public stock I'll be shorting it so hard.

thih9 3y ago
Isn’t grammarly in a relatively good place as it already has an audience, a market fit and a way to expand its products with AI?
- idopmstuff 3y ago
  I think their biggest issue is that every place where Grammarly is used (e.g. email clients, word processors) is owned by a much larger corporation with a huge investment in AI that can pretty easily launch a Grammarly replacement as a native feature.
  - thih9 3y ago
    True. At the same time this seems unrelated to “The day I typed my first question into ChatGPT”.
PumpkinSpice 3y ago
Why? The ChatGPT interface is not integrated with an editor and not really tailored for writing. I'd wager that most of the current Grammarly users would rather pay for a tailored tool than a chat window that excels at schooling you and refusing to do anything that doesn't align with OpenAI's sprawling brand safety rules. Of course, GPT-4 can be molded into an editing-centric companion, but I bet Grammarly is already working on that, and they might end up paying OpenAI for the technology. Brand recognition means that it's a lot easier for Grammarly to build that product than for a random third party to break through.
- idopmstuff 3y ago
  > The ChatGPT interface is not integrated with an editor But all the editors where Grammarly is integrated are owned by Google/Microsoft/etc., who can natively implement a writing-tailored AI as a feature.

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XiphiasX 3y ago

When will GPT kill cancer that is grammarly already.

phren0logy 3y ago
Wow. How is grammarly a "cancer"? I mean, if you don't like it, it seems easy enough not to use it...

matrix12 3y ago

They've had some trouble with the arena allocator in the latest sbcl.

tsuru 3y ago
Wow. I didn't think this was production ready yet...

imankulov 3y ago

I was using Grammarly for a long time, but a while ago I made a wrapper around the OpenAI API to fix grammar and style and highlight the changes. - Demo: https://refiner.roman.pt/ https://refiner.roman.pt/. - Source: https://github.com/imankulov/refiner https://github.com/imankulov/refiner. For me it works better than Grammarly.

bertil 3y ago

Most comments are about using higher-level AI. It’s interesting because I have so much trouble getting Grammarly to work (I thought that announcement would justify the problem), but it’s far more prosaic than that: - the little indicator hides the content that I’m writing and can’t be moved; - if I dismiss a problem, it will ignore it for a second until I approve another one and immediately flag the first problem again; - occasionally, it won’t apply the recommended change; - some changes make the entire browser think I’m trying to reload or close the page… not sure, but the browser is not happy about that. - It occasionally overrides the editor in fairly catastrophic ways: puts the edited word and the rest of what I’ve written afterward somewhere random in the editing window, duplicating half of my response and overwriting entire paragraphs. It’s pretty destructive and frustrating, breaking Ctrl+Z and the entire editor. I’m impressed at how smart it is: detects unnecessary words, catches trailing 's's, and knows when to apply Oxford commas… but I’d love not to have to reload HN because editing five paragraphs in a '90s interface and its 40kb of overhead is enough to cause kernel panic.

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ulizzle 3y ago

What are some good Grammarly competitors out there? Not that I don't like it, but curious to see what else is going on.

effnorwood 3y ago

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