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"Keeping track of these records is required by law." What law? Which records? There are websites, such as those which provide anonymous web access, which say t
by ThaddeusQuay2 15y ago
"Keeping track of these records is required by law."
What law? Which records? There are websites, such as those which provide anonymous web access, which say that they don't keep any records, or keep IP addresses only, or keep records for no more than 30 days, or whatever. Are they lying to us, or are they intentionally breaking some law? Exactly how can I be forced to keep any kind of log, for any period of time?
- JoachimSchipper 15y agoAs I understand it, keeping logs is optional. However, if you keep logs and receive a subpoena, you must turn over whatever logs you have.
- xxbondsxx 15y agoNot optional depending on your country: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_data_retention http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_data_retenti... It's a really complicated legal issue, and the last thing you would want to do as an international company is shoot yourself in the foot by deleting "evidence".
- ThaddeusQuay2 15y agoFB is an American company, and the crime of which the article speaks happened in the US, and the article you cite says: "The United States does not have any Internet Service Provider (ISP) data retention laws similar to the European Data Retention Directive. All attempts have failed:" THEREFORE: Under what law was FB required to retain the data, which was eventually handed over under subpoena?
- fromhet 15y agoI may be wrong, and if so, please correct me. But I think i remember something about Facebook having european offices in Ireland, so for us Facebook users in the European Union it's the Irish and EU laws they have to abide. But I havent got a clue about what law regulates theese things.
- xxbondsxx 15y agoYour thinking is along the right direction; see my reply to your parent comment
- xxbondsxx 15y agoSince Facebook follows the popular "Double Irish Arrangement:" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Irish_arrangement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Irish_arrangement The location of its legal tax headquarters is up for debate; Additionally, Facebook has corporate offices all over the world in different countries: https://www.facebook.com/careers/locations https://www.facebook.com/careers/locations Italy, India, Canada, New Zealand, Belgium, etc. Clearly it's not just a "US" company and only has to follow "US" laws.
- ThaddeusQuay2 15y agoTaxes are not involved in the question. When it comes to US cases, FB only has to follow US laws. Therefore, data generated by US-based users should not be retained.