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definitely not going to install cursed Raku for this single search lib. perhaps if they had a distributed binary in some byte-code format, but they don't. becau

by larodi 3y ago

definitely not going to install cursed Raku for this single search lib. perhaps if they had a distributed binary in some byte-code format, but they don't. because forked-Perl-guys were busy figuring how to use all the Unicode and outpace APL in complexity, while others were figuring how to target reasonably large distribution medium (think wasm, .net, and jre if u want). besides, ripgrep IS much more state of the art than anything else out there. very fast and can fallback to pcre2 for weird lookahead and utf8 (if i remember correctly, sorry). we have to admit that BurntSushi made incredibly good job at it. ACTUALLY what I need most of the times is qgrep which can grep regexes in 100k files in less than second. is re2 + index essentially and none of its cousins can do similar searches reasonably fast. the only downside - it indexes per-line, so if you wanna grep some fancy multiline-SQL you have to do second pass over the files that match on more general basis not sure why codeql could not get up to speed with SQL, but I've several times considered actually using multi-passes with tree-sitter in order to dig some SQL neatly hidden in multiline concatenated Java strings. why? well, the usual "order of things" in many large projects is after all nothing more than respectful mess of entangled enterprise-level orchestration (code) piled years after years. i guess this' why someone at google had to write qgrep to dig the monorepo.

frou_dh 3y ago
I thought Raku can/could run on the JVM, but presumably the number of people actually doing so is very low so maybe it's fallen into disrepair.
_v7gu 3y ago
APL is one of the least complex languages I know (simplest being Lisp); there isn’t much syntax to learn and the language doesn’t really have implicit footguns. You just string together function applications and modify some of those functions with adverbs
- larodi 3y ago
  I meant this -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_encoding_of_APL_symbols https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_encoding_of_APL_symbol..., not the language construct. Let me give an allegory - perhaps not exact, but you'll get my point. Much of the mathematics (either discreet, differential, computation geometry, etc) is actually not so difficult to understand when told right... but incidentally, there were some folks back in the day who decided to write it using the whole greek alphabet and then some cryptic symbols in it (like these https://cloford.com/resources/charcodes/utf-8_mathematical.htm https://cloford.com/resources/charcodes/utf-8_mathematical.h...). By doing so they effectively formed some weird cryptic cult of the Mathematicians, which eventually repelled many people away from the discipline, and still do. Later one, some perhaps not so smart people, figured how to express stuff as 'sum', 'product' in for-loops and suddenly the whole world was writing programs while decrying math as complex. even though... programs are logic are math, right?
librasteve 3y ago
installing raku via rakubrew.org is quite painless tbh, it comes with zef, the standard raku package manager and then just ```zef install App::Rak```

by larodi 3y ago

frou_dh 3y ago

I thought Raku can/could run on the JVM, but presumably the number of people actually doing so is very low so maybe it's fallen into disrepair.

_v7gu 3y ago

APL is one of the least complex languages I know (simplest being Lisp); there isn’t much syntax to learn and the language doesn’t really have implicit footguns. You just string together function applications and modify some of those functions with adverbs

larodi 3y ago
I meant this -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_encoding_of_APL_symbols https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_encoding_of_APL_symbol..., not the language construct. Let me give an allegory - perhaps not exact, but you'll get my point. Much of the mathematics (either discreet, differential, computation geometry, etc) is actually not so difficult to understand when told right... but incidentally, there were some folks back in the day who decided to write it using the whole greek alphabet and then some cryptic symbols in it (like these https://cloford.com/resources/charcodes/utf-8_mathematical.htm https://cloford.com/resources/charcodes/utf-8_mathematical.h...). By doing so they effectively formed some weird cryptic cult of the Mathematicians, which eventually repelled many people away from the discipline, and still do. Later one, some perhaps not so smart people, figured how to express stuff as 'sum', 'product' in for-loops and suddenly the whole world was writing programs while decrying math as complex. even though... programs are logic are math, right?

librasteve 3y ago

installing raku via rakubrew.org is quite painless tbh, it comes with zef, the standard raku package manager and then just ```zef install App::Rak```