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If humans go extinct it sure as hell won't be AI that does it, but rather good old human ignorance and aggression.

by tensor 3y ago

sokoloff 3y ago
I think the probability of humans eventually going extinct is 1. Avoiding it requires almost unimaginable levels of cooperation and technical advances.
- boringg 3y ago
  Well thats not a difficult position to take. The difficult take is when the timing would be. The sun is eventually going to explode rendering our solar system uninhabitable though that is a long time away from now and we have many other massive risks to humanity in the meantime.
- babyshake 3y ago
  The end of human civilization as we know it doesn't mean extinction. Why is extinction unavoidable?
  - TeMPOraL 3y ago
    Why does extinction matter? If we lose civilization now, we'll be stuck at pre-industrial levels possibly for geological timescales, as we've mined and burned all the high-density energy sources you can get at without already being a high-tech industrial society.
    - ben_w 3y ago
      I don't think that would necessarily limit us. Windmills and water mills can be made with wood, stone, and the small quantities of iron that pre-industrial societies could produce.
      - TeMPOraL 3y ago
        Sure, but it's hard to move from that to industrial production without having a high-density energy source (like coal) available.
  - lobocinza 3y ago
    Entropy
tivert 3y ago
> If humans go extinct it sure as hell won't be AI that does it, but rather good old human ignorance and aggression. No reason it can't be all of those things at once.
Terretta 3y ago
> If humans go extinct it sure as hell won't be AI that does it, but rather good old human ignorance and aggression. And the shift to kakistocracy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakistocracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakistocracy
- BobaFloutist 3y ago
  Haha poop government.
concordDance 3y ago
Why are you so sure it can't be AI? Do you think making something smarter than humans is impossible?

If humans go extinct it sure as hell won't be AI that does it, but rather good old human ignorance and aggression.

by tensor 3y ago

If humans go extinct it sure as hell won't be AI that does it, but rather good old human ignorance and aggression.

I think the probability of humans eventually going extinct is 1. Avoiding it requires almost unimaginable levels of cooperation and technical advances.

boringg 3y ago
Well thats not a difficult position to take. The difficult take is when the timing would be. The sun is eventually going to explode rendering our solar system uninhabitable though that is a long time away from now and we have many other massive risks to humanity in the meantime.
babyshake 3y ago
The end of human civilization as we know it doesn't mean extinction. Why is extinction unavoidable?
- TeMPOraL 3y ago
  Why does extinction matter? If we lose civilization now, we'll be stuck at pre-industrial levels possibly for geological timescales, as we've mined and burned all the high-density energy sources you can get at without already being a high-tech industrial society.
  - ben_w 3y ago
    I don't think that would necessarily limit us. Windmills and water mills can be made with wood, stone, and the small quantities of iron that pre-industrial societies could produce.
    - TeMPOraL 3y ago
      Sure, but it's hard to move from that to industrial production without having a high-density energy source (like coal) available.
- lobocinza 3y ago
  Entropy

tivert 3y ago

> If humans go extinct it sure as hell won't be AI that does it, but rather good old human ignorance and aggression. No reason it can't be all of those things at once.

Terretta 3y ago

> If humans go extinct it sure as hell won't be AI that does it, but rather good old human ignorance and aggression. And the shift to kakistocracy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakistocracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakistocracy

BobaFloutist 3y ago
Haha poop government.

concordDance 3y ago

Why are you so sure it can't be AI? Do you think making something smarter than humans is impossible?