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> think the author doesn't understand consumer products, especially cameras and what most people care about (taking photos!) and need. The author didn't claim

> think the author doesn't understand consumer products, especially cameras and what most people care about (taking photos!) and need. The author didn't claim that iPhone has it wrong, just that their personal expectation and preference is different. > Generally, people don't care if the phone uses expensive 5x lens or not. I don't really know who does. :) That's a strange claim. I know many people who value decent quality zoom, even if they're not otherwise photography geeks. > we would get both user studies/bugs/feedback, as well as guidance from PMs that responsiveness/latency and "taking any usable photo at all as fast as possible" was more important than the Image Quality What I don't like about these studies is that it collapses different user groups and different use cases into one average "taking any usable photo at all as fast as possible". The reality is much more colorful and often depends on a situation. When taking a photo of an animal then quick shutter speed is indeed important. But when I'm taking a photo of a static subject, esp. in challenging light conditions, I care more about quality.

bartwr 3y ago
The latter is the reason why we launched Night Sight. And a ton of people were pissed that it's slow and their subjects won't stay still for so long. We were not conflating user groups, just that if one group is literally 95% of the market and all photos taken, then you optimize the default app and the default mode for them and make the experience super polished. The remaining 5% of power users can use dedicated apps...
- The_Colonel 3y ago
  > The latter is the reason why we launched Night Sight. And a ton of people were pissed that it's slow and their subjects won't stay still for so long. I'm not sure if this is directly relevant to the original problem of camera switching on its own, but to bite - there's certainly something possible in between super quick photos and those which need multiple seconds. > The remaining 5% of power users can use dedicated apps... One thing to consider is that for those 5% of power users the camera is a more important consideration in their buying decisions than the rest. Another issue here is that you can't really use a different app without losing a lot of the Google Camera specific functionality.

bartwr 3y ago

The latter is the reason why we launched Night Sight. And a ton of people were pissed that it's slow and their subjects won't stay still for so long. We were not conflating user groups, just that if one group is literally 95% of the market and all photos taken, then you optimize the default app and the default mode for them and make the experience super polished. The remaining 5% of power users can use dedicated apps...

The_Colonel 3y ago
> The latter is the reason why we launched Night Sight. And a ton of people were pissed that it's slow and their subjects won't stay still for so long. I'm not sure if this is directly relevant to the original problem of camera switching on its own, but to bite - there's certainly something possible in between super quick photos and those which need multiple seconds. > The remaining 5% of power users can use dedicated apps... One thing to consider is that for those 5% of power users the camera is a more important consideration in their buying decisions than the rest. Another issue here is that you can't really use a different app without losing a lot of the Google Camera specific functionality.