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I mean yes? As someone with a gaming computer, I never understood devs that use a laptop... its way slower, waaaaaaay worse cooling = more noise and less expa

I mean yes? As someone with a gaming computer, I never understood devs that use a laptop... its way slower, waaaaaaay worse cooling = more noise and less expansion possible in terms of RAM, storage and ports.

faeriechangling 3y ago
Apple silicon is either totally silent, or totally silent/very quiet at idle (depending on settings) and not that loud at load. Apple is using the most power efficient chips on the planet and exhaustively optimised cooling solutions that use the aluminium case as a heatsink. I've tried to make an ATX gaming build silent, it never worked out satisfactorily after a lot of time and expense. I've done the silent gaming build and Apple Silicon and I cannot recommend Apple silicon enough. I spent many hours researching, building, and tweaking a computer buying premium components and at the end of the day the computer ended up being louder and less performant than the Mac I took out of the box and plugged into the wall. Even if I built that silent gaming PC perfectly, which is a big "if", the two big problems are that ATX gaming PCs are poorly designed for the passive cooling performance of the CPU/GPU/PSU, and that the lower performance/watt means that your gaming PC will likely have more coil whine for the same level of performance. Three is that the GOOD silent Intel/AMD machines are NOT gaming PCs, they're low powered PCs sold on aliexpress with a custom case that acts as a heatsink that are much cheaper than anything Apple sells. In terms of less expansion: - No expandable storage sucks, but it's also not a HUGE deal when 1TB is realistically going to be enough local storage for 90% of devs for the lifespan of the computer. - No expandable memory sucks, but you know what else sucks? Gaming desktops using dual channel memory running at maybe 100gb/s with the GPU choked off from accessing it by the PCIe bus. The price you pay to get a pooled 128gb memory the GPU/CPU can use at 400gb/s bandwidth from Apple is actually insanely low compared to the competition. - For ports, Apple is running three TB4 connectors and an HDMI 2.1 port with 168gb/s combined bandwidth with Wifi 6E/BT 5.3. Sure having lots of USB 3.0 ports is cool, but what else is cool is being able to have multiple laptops and setting up a desk which allows any of your laptops to connect to every peripheral via a single cable. - Finally, Apple Silicon holds its resale value, so selling your current model and buying a different one if needed is really not THAT big of a deal.
- Unfrozen0688 3y ago
  Im talking laptops. Apple silicon is very new okay

faeriechangling 3y ago

Apple silicon is either totally silent, or totally silent/very quiet at idle (depending on settings) and not that loud at load. Apple is using the most power efficient chips on the planet and exhaustively optimised cooling solutions that use the aluminium case as a heatsink. I've tried to make an ATX gaming build silent, it never worked out satisfactorily after a lot of time and expense. I've done the silent gaming build and Apple Silicon and I cannot recommend Apple silicon enough. I spent many hours researching, building, and tweaking a computer buying premium components and at the end of the day the computer ended up being louder and less performant than the Mac I took out of the box and plugged into the wall. Even if I built that silent gaming PC perfectly, which is a big "if", the two big problems are that ATX gaming PCs are poorly designed for the passive cooling performance of the CPU/GPU/PSU, and that the lower performance/watt means that your gaming PC will likely have more coil whine for the same level of performance. Three is that the GOOD silent Intel/AMD machines are NOT gaming PCs, they're low powered PCs sold on aliexpress with a custom case that acts as a heatsink that are much cheaper than anything Apple sells. In terms of less expansion: - No expandable storage sucks, but it's also not a HUGE deal when 1TB is realistically going to be enough local storage for 90% of devs for the lifespan of the computer. - No expandable memory sucks, but you know what else sucks? Gaming desktops using dual channel memory running at maybe 100gb/s with the GPU choked off from accessing it by the PCIe bus. The price you pay to get a pooled 128gb memory the GPU/CPU can use at 400gb/s bandwidth from Apple is actually insanely low compared to the competition. - For ports, Apple is running three TB4 connectors and an HDMI 2.1 port with 168gb/s combined bandwidth with Wifi 6E/BT 5.3. Sure having lots of USB 3.0 ports is cool, but what else is cool is being able to have multiple laptops and setting up a desk which allows any of your laptops to connect to every peripheral via a single cable. - Finally, Apple Silicon holds its resale value, so selling your current model and buying a different one if needed is really not THAT big of a deal.

Unfrozen0688 3y ago
Im talking laptops. Apple silicon is very new okay