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Actually their standard mobile lineup comes first. Then desktop or if the gains are just a small step they skip and go to premium laptop. So it goes standard la

Actually their standard mobile lineup comes first. Then desktop or if the gains are just a small step they skip and go to premium laptop. So it goes standard laptop -> desktop -> premium laptop. That is how AMD has released chips for the past six years.

wtallis 3y ago
Don't look at the model numbers, look at the architectures. Zen 1 desktop processors (branded Ryzen 1000 series) were released spring 2017; Zen 1 mobile processors (branded Ryzen 2000 series) were released starting in fall 2017. Zen+ desktop processors (branded Ryzen 2000 series) were released spring 2018; Zen+ mobile processors (branded Ryzen 3000 series) were released at the beginning of 2019. Zen 2 desktop (branded Ryzen 3000 series) were released mid 2019, followed by Zen 2 mobile (branded Ryzen 4000 series) in spring 2020. For Zen 3 desktop, they skipped 4000 series branding to catch up with the mobile branding: Zen 3 destkop (branded Ryzen 5000 series) launched late 2020, followed by Zen 3 mobile (branded Ryzen 5000 series) at the beginning of 2021. Zen 3+ (branded Ryzen 6000 series) was a mobile-only update to Zen3 (same CPU microarchitecture, minor die shrink, new memory controller) launched at the beginning of 2022. Zen 4 desktop (branded Ryzen 7000 series) launched fall 2022, followed by Zen 4 mobile (branded Ryzen 7000 series) at the beginning of 2023. Their new architectures launch on desktop and server first, using the same CPU chiplets in both segments. The monolithic mobile processors come later. But every year, they increment the model numbers of their mobile parts whether or not they have a new architecture, and the mobile parts are almost always announced at CES in January; that's simply how the laptop market functions. Zen 5 desktop and server parts aren't here yet, so whatever 8000 series mobile parts they introduce at CES in January 2024 either won't be using Zen 5, or they'll be announcing at the beginning of the year but not shipping until fall at the earliest. Recent rumors suggest that their high-end monolithic mobile chip (a new product segment for them) has been delayed from late 2024 to early 2025.
- Sparkyte 3y ago
  Sometimes they do launches at and during CES so definitely keep an eye. The biggest benefit is that it prevents companies from course correcting their design if they announce and release at the same time. Intel gets rug pulled. Which seems to be the strategy for the last few years. Also if the 8k is launched it is usually a small limited run of their basic chips. Desktop chips will deifnitely be later in the year.
  - wtallis 3y ago
    > Sometimes they do launches at and during CES so definitely keep an eye. I get the feeling you didn't read my comment all that carefully.

wtallis 3y ago

Don't look at the model numbers, look at the architectures. Zen 1 desktop processors (branded Ryzen 1000 series) were released spring 2017; Zen 1 mobile processors (branded Ryzen 2000 series) were released starting in fall 2017. Zen+ desktop processors (branded Ryzen 2000 series) were released spring 2018; Zen+ mobile processors (branded Ryzen 3000 series) were released at the beginning of 2019. Zen 2 desktop (branded Ryzen 3000 series) were released mid 2019, followed by Zen 2 mobile (branded Ryzen 4000 series) in spring 2020. For Zen 3 desktop, they skipped 4000 series branding to catch up with the mobile branding: Zen 3 destkop (branded Ryzen 5000 series) launched late 2020, followed by Zen 3 mobile (branded Ryzen 5000 series) at the beginning of 2021. Zen 3+ (branded Ryzen 6000 series) was a mobile-only update to Zen3 (same CPU microarchitecture, minor die shrink, new memory controller) launched at the beginning of 2022. Zen 4 desktop (branded Ryzen 7000 series) launched fall 2022, followed by Zen 4 mobile (branded Ryzen 7000 series) at the beginning of 2023. Their new architectures launch on desktop and server first, using the same CPU chiplets in both segments. The monolithic mobile processors come later. But every year, they increment the model numbers of their mobile parts whether or not they have a new architecture, and the mobile parts are almost always announced at CES in January; that's simply how the laptop market functions. Zen 5 desktop and server parts aren't here yet, so whatever 8000 series mobile parts they introduce at CES in January 2024 either won't be using Zen 5, or they'll be announcing at the beginning of the year but not shipping until fall at the earliest. Recent rumors suggest that their high-end monolithic mobile chip (a new product segment for them) has been delayed from late 2024 to early 2025.

Sparkyte 3y ago
Sometimes they do launches at and during CES so definitely keep an eye. The biggest benefit is that it prevents companies from course correcting their design if they announce and release at the same time. Intel gets rug pulled. Which seems to be the strategy for the last few years. Also if the 8k is launched it is usually a small limited run of their basic chips. Desktop chips will deifnitely be later in the year.
- wtallis 3y ago
  > Sometimes they do launches at and during CES so definitely keep an eye. I get the feeling you didn't read my comment all that carefully.