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desktop/workstation is a niche market nowadays.

by prmoustache 3y ago

xhdjcic 3y ago
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oyashirochama 3y ago
Not for AAA, 4k 120 fps+. Desktop is the requirement not the exception.
- prmoustache 3y ago
  Yes but AAA desktop game machines is a niche market, a profitable one maybe but still very small in numbers.
  - seec 3y ago
    One that millions of people enjoy, and more are getting into every year passing. Young people who were raised with already decent graphics will not downgrade to 10 years older graphic quality and will thus buy decent gaming PC. It is actually the market that Apple has chosen that is more niche. About 80% of Mac sales are laptops (a lot of which are status symbol/ rich executive computer type) so it really does not leave a lot of customers that are into computers. I believe they made that choice for both historical reasons and trying to maximize profits. But I think they are wrong, and it will bite them eventually. There is no reason a powerful desktop couldn't be just as good at video editing. Actually, the gaming desktops tend to be pretty good at video production too, it just does not have the software Apple has...
jillesvangurp 3y ago
The Mac Pro, Mac Studio, Mac Mini, and iMac are basically how Apple covers that market. The Mac Pro is pretty much unobtainable on a budget and definitely aimed at a niche market (high end video/3D graphics production). The Mac Studio is actually pretty nice as a high end work station. The mac mini kind of stops where the Mac Studio begins in terms of performance. If you are maxing out the specs on that, you might be better off getting the entry model Mac Studio. And an imac is what you use if you don't care about performance that much. But the point is that all of these have a market and some people are spending big on this. I talked to one of my friends recently who runs a high tech printing company and they spent some money on a mac studio recently for doing graphics work. Worth the money according to him. I have a 14" macbook pro (M1). It's great. I do some flight simuluation on it occasionally with X-plane 12. That runs pretty smooth on this thing and it's one of the few things I have that actually gets this laptop warm. Apple did a great job of getting great performance with modest power budgets. Comparing their products to water cooled monstrosities is not really that interesting.
cozzyd 3y ago
Regardless, it is a popular market for me and presumably many others here (not that I would ever consider Apple hardware for anything).

desktop/workstation is a niche market nowadays.

xhdjcic 3y ago

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oyashirochama 3y ago

Not for AAA, 4k 120 fps+. Desktop is the requirement not the exception.

prmoustache 3y ago
Yes but AAA desktop game machines is a niche market, a profitable one maybe but still very small in numbers.
- seec 3y ago
  One that millions of people enjoy, and more are getting into every year passing. Young people who were raised with already decent graphics will not downgrade to 10 years older graphic quality and will thus buy decent gaming PC. It is actually the market that Apple has chosen that is more niche. About 80% of Mac sales are laptops (a lot of which are status symbol/ rich executive computer type) so it really does not leave a lot of customers that are into computers. I believe they made that choice for both historical reasons and trying to maximize profits. But I think they are wrong, and it will bite them eventually. There is no reason a powerful desktop couldn't be just as good at video editing. Actually, the gaming desktops tend to be pretty good at video production too, it just does not have the software Apple has...

jillesvangurp 3y ago

The Mac Pro, Mac Studio, Mac Mini, and iMac are basically how Apple covers that market. The Mac Pro is pretty much unobtainable on a budget and definitely aimed at a niche market (high end video/3D graphics production). The Mac Studio is actually pretty nice as a high end work station. The mac mini kind of stops where the Mac Studio begins in terms of performance. If you are maxing out the specs on that, you might be better off getting the entry model Mac Studio. And an imac is what you use if you don't care about performance that much. But the point is that all of these have a market and some people are spending big on this. I talked to one of my friends recently who runs a high tech printing company and they spent some money on a mac studio recently for doing graphics work. Worth the money according to him. I have a 14" macbook pro (M1). It's great. I do some flight simuluation on it occasionally with X-plane 12. That runs pretty smooth on this thing and it's one of the few things I have that actually gets this laptop warm. Apple did a great job of getting great performance with modest power budgets. Comparing their products to water cooled monstrosities is not really that interesting.

cozzyd 3y ago

Regardless, it is a popular market for me and presumably many others here (not that I would ever consider Apple hardware for anything).