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Yeah, I was thinking that too. I guess Disney's real offense was picking the wrong subspecies of lemming (one that absolutely doesn't have this behavior) and f

by the_af 3y ago

Yeah, I was thinking that too. I guess Disney's real offense was picking the wrong subspecies of lemming (one that absolutely doesn't have this behavior) and forcibly dropping them off a cliff because the little creatures wouldn't play along otherwise. Pretty nasty.

civilitty 3y ago
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- elefanten 3y ago
  Are you referring to the original fairy tales that Disney content is based on? Even there, no example comes to mind. Which stories are you referencing?
  - Sander_Marechal 3y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Beauty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Beauty > [...] the sleeping beauty, Talia, falls into a deep sleep after getting a splinter of flax in her finger. She is discovered in her castle by a wandering king, who "carrie[s] her to a bed, where he gather[s] the first fruits of love." He abandons her there after the assault and she later gives birth to twins while still unconscious.
    - causi 3y ago
      That seems to only be in Giambattista Basile's version, not in Grimms'.
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  - ArnoVW 3y ago
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    - graemep 3y ago
      Not true. A kiss of life is not sexual in nature and its intent is different. In the Cinderella story it is a kiss motivated by sexual desire (even if it is not worded quite that way for kids). It would be different if the prince knew it would revive her - IIRC he does not. Assault might be a bit strong, and it does benefit her. However, it is definitely not something that would be normal behaviour in real life. How would you like to be woken by a stranger kissing you? Then again, fairy tails are pretty weird anyway.
      - throwaway74093 3y ago
        >In the Cinderella story it is a kiss motivated by sexual desire ... It would be different if the prince knew it would revive her - IIRC he does not. I believe you and the person you are quoting are referring to Snow White and not Cinderella? Premising that I'm not acquainted with the original story, I find the claim that an "useless" kiss is inherently sexual ridiculous: kisses can be displays of affection without carrying romantic or sexual connotations, not to mention giving a last kiss to a deceased loved one is not that uncommon.
      - eloisant 3y ago
        Fairy tales come from a different time, with different values
    - tmtvl 3y ago
      Cinderella is the lass who loses her shoe, not one of the ones who fall asleep, those are Sleeping Beauty and Snow White. While the Snow White situation is especially bad (first time we see the guy is when he drops by to plant one on a presumed-dead minor), the Sleeping Beauty story is a bit more nuanced: he was there as a child when the curse was laid on the princess so he knows what's going on and they have at least some foundation for their relationship, albeit a shaky one (the meeting in the forest).
- willis936 3y ago
  A cartoon depiction of kissing a life-saving non-consensual kiss somehow is not as bad as actually murdering dozens of real world living animals on camera for profit.
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by the_af 3y ago

civilitty 3y ago

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elefanten 3y ago
Are you referring to the original fairy tales that Disney content is based on? Even there, no example comes to mind. Which stories are you referencing?
- Sander_Marechal 3y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Beauty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Beauty > [...] the sleeping beauty, Talia, falls into a deep sleep after getting a splinter of flax in her finger. She is discovered in her castle by a wandering king, who "carrie[s] her to a bed, where he gather[s] the first fruits of love." He abandons her there after the assault and she later gives birth to twins while still unconscious.
  - causi 3y ago
    That seems to only be in Giambattista Basile's version, not in Grimms'.
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- ArnoVW 3y ago
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  - graemep 3y ago
    Not true. A kiss of life is not sexual in nature and its intent is different. In the Cinderella story it is a kiss motivated by sexual desire (even if it is not worded quite that way for kids). It would be different if the prince knew it would revive her - IIRC he does not. Assault might be a bit strong, and it does benefit her. However, it is definitely not something that would be normal behaviour in real life. How would you like to be woken by a stranger kissing you? Then again, fairy tails are pretty weird anyway.
    - throwaway74093 3y ago
      >In the Cinderella story it is a kiss motivated by sexual desire ... It would be different if the prince knew it would revive her - IIRC he does not. I believe you and the person you are quoting are referring to Snow White and not Cinderella? Premising that I'm not acquainted with the original story, I find the claim that an "useless" kiss is inherently sexual ridiculous: kisses can be displays of affection without carrying romantic or sexual connotations, not to mention giving a last kiss to a deceased loved one is not that uncommon.
    - eloisant 3y ago
      Fairy tales come from a different time, with different values
  - tmtvl 3y ago
    Cinderella is the lass who loses her shoe, not one of the ones who fall asleep, those are Sleeping Beauty and Snow White. While the Snow White situation is especially bad (first time we see the guy is when he drops by to plant one on a presumed-dead minor), the Sleeping Beauty story is a bit more nuanced: he was there as a child when the curse was laid on the princess so he knows what's going on and they have at least some foundation for their relationship, albeit a shaky one (the meeting in the forest).
willis936 3y ago
A cartoon depiction of kissing a life-saving non-consensual kiss somehow is not as bad as actually murdering dozens of real world living animals on camera for profit.

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