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We need a Jony Ive in every company.

by pomian 3y ago

77pt77 3y ago
Please god, no! You'd get something like this [1]. And I'm not even joking. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA
warkdarrior 3y ago
You'd better not hold the steering wheel wrong!
et-al 3y ago
You're kidding right? Apple under Jony Ive without Steve gave us the worst generation of Macbook Pros: butterfly keyboard, limited ports, and the touchbar.
- enraged_camel 3y ago
  What about his positive contributions to the rest of the Apple product family?
  - tuatoru 3y ago
    Non-replaceable batteries and weird screens?
    - jackjeff 3y ago
      To be fair it’s not like you can easily remove batteries from an EV car anyway ;)
  - tuatoru 3y ago
    Non-removeable batteries and weird screens?
  - Tade0 3y ago
    You mean the frankly ugly UI redesign?
- weeblewobble 3y ago
  Recently upgraded my work laptop to an M1 and I gotta say I miss the touchbar. Very sad that they got rid of it seemingly forever. Concretely it was great for managing screen recording. But in general I don’t understand the backlash, especially once they added a physical escape key for my fellow vim heads. The haters won but I wonder what their victory cost us. Am I supposed to be happy I got my F11 key back??
  - GloriousKoji 3y ago
    The touchpads are absolutely absurdly large, Apple could have easily made it a little bit smaller and fit both a row of function keys and the touch bar.
    - bborud 3y ago
      yeah, I don't understand why they felt they had to make it that big. Now it is just in the way.
  - yard2010 3y ago
    "Siri is not available.. blah blah voicover blah blah siri"
  - karolist 3y ago
    I agree, I'm on the 2019 16" MBP, the one with physical ESC and touchbar. I honestly love the touchbar once you spice it up with BetterTouchTool you can make it extremely useful. * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9-B8VFZgc8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9-B8VFZgc8
- yard2010 3y ago
  We get to see a renaissance today at least, after years of waiting
bborud 3y ago
That would be an absolute disaster. After Steve Jobs died it became clear that Ive needed both someone to give him direction and to filter his outoput. Steve Jobs knew something about users. Ive demonstrably didn't and, to speak plainly, managed to lodge his head so far up his own behind that he completely lost sight of the user. As a result he managed to gradually alienate key demographics among laptop users. Including designing laptops that would gradually self-destruct due to completely careless design (like blowing hot air on components that really, really shouldn't have hot air blown on them).

We need a Jony Ive in every company.

by pomian 3y ago

We need a Jony Ive in every company.

Please god, no! You'd get something like this [1]. And I'm not even joking. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA

warkdarrior 3y ago

You'd better not hold the steering wheel wrong!

et-al 3y ago

You're kidding right? Apple under Jony Ive without Steve gave us the worst generation of Macbook Pros: butterfly keyboard, limited ports, and the touchbar.

enraged_camel 3y ago
What about his positive contributions to the rest of the Apple product family?
- tuatoru 3y ago
  Non-replaceable batteries and weird screens?
  - jackjeff 3y ago
    To be fair it’s not like you can easily remove batteries from an EV car anyway ;)
- tuatoru 3y ago
  Non-removeable batteries and weird screens?
- Tade0 3y ago
  You mean the frankly ugly UI redesign?
weeblewobble 3y ago
Recently upgraded my work laptop to an M1 and I gotta say I miss the touchbar. Very sad that they got rid of it seemingly forever. Concretely it was great for managing screen recording. But in general I don’t understand the backlash, especially once they added a physical escape key for my fellow vim heads. The haters won but I wonder what their victory cost us. Am I supposed to be happy I got my F11 key back??
- GloriousKoji 3y ago
  The touchpads are absolutely absurdly large, Apple could have easily made it a little bit smaller and fit both a row of function keys and the touch bar.
  - bborud 3y ago
    yeah, I don't understand why they felt they had to make it that big. Now it is just in the way.
- yard2010 3y ago
  "Siri is not available.. blah blah voicover blah blah siri"
- karolist 3y ago
  I agree, I'm on the 2019 16" MBP, the one with physical ESC and touchbar. I honestly love the touchbar once you spice it up with BetterTouchTool you can make it extremely useful. * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9-B8VFZgc8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9-B8VFZgc8
yard2010 3y ago
We get to see a renaissance today at least, after years of waiting

bborud 3y ago

That would be an absolute disaster. After Steve Jobs died it became clear that Ive needed both someone to give him direction and to filter his outoput. Steve Jobs knew something about users. Ive demonstrably didn't and, to speak plainly, managed to lodge his head so far up his own behind that he completely lost sight of the user. As a result he managed to gradually alienate key demographics among laptop users. Including designing laptops that would gradually self-destruct due to completely careless design (like blowing hot air on components that really, really shouldn't have hot air blown on them).