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Starting my current car is always a pain in the ass that takes at least a minute. Get in the car, put the seatbelt on first so it doesn't complain, push the Sta

by Tanoc 3y ago

Starting my current car is always a pain in the ass that takes at least a minute. Get in the car, put the seatbelt on first so it doesn't complain, push the Start/Stop Engine button, immediately turn off the traction control and turn on Sport mode (buttons for which are conveniently placed right beside eachother) so that the car doesn't try to kill me in the rain and so I can get across an intersection from a dead stop faster than fifteen seconds, turn off the blind spot monitoring system so it doesn't flash me, turn off the forward collision warning so it doesn't scare the shit out of me when I'm going through the drive through, disable the parking sensor so that when I go to pay for my food I don't have to keep pressing "Okay" to get it to shut up because it thinks the wall to my left is an oncoming car, and then wait for another minute for the idle revs to drop to 900RPM before I even think of shifting out of park because the engineers thought putting zero weight oil in a highly stressed inline four with less displacement than my childhood lunchbox was a good idea.

xyzelement 3y ago
OMG. What kind of car is this?
- codexb 3y ago
  VW for sure
- Tanoc 3y ago
  Lexus ES. I traded a family member my Rogue for a couple of weeks until they finish moving.
jaxx75 3y ago
Well, to be fair, the oil weight is a result of CAFE standards. Squeezing out another .5mpg at the expense of an engine needing to be replaced at 115K miles (outside of warranty, of course) is the cost. There are other costs to improve fuel economy, like being stranded on the side of the road with no spare tire when you have a flat.
GreyMolecules 3y ago
How does turning off TC keep your car from killing you in the rain? just out of curiosity. In my experience, TC has been very helpful, as it means I don't have to worry about feathering the gas pedal in heavy rain.
- smilekzs 3y ago
  Some implementations of TC/ESC will abruptly brake one or more of the wheels in on/off pulses, using the ABS pump, disrupting an otherwise balanced cornering car.
  - b112 3y ago
    Yes. I won't buy a car I cannot disable ABS on, because it extends braking distances, plus by doing so, all traction control is off. But I honed my non-ABS driving in my teenage years, pre-ABS (for most cars at the time), on rural dirt roads, and on roads with constant snow and ice, and driving on frozen lakes. Of course, if you disable ABS, you may end up without any form of real differential, as many cars use ediff tech, which is horrible, so I now have to also vet for a true hardware, non-open diff. Sad.
    - nameequalsmain 3y ago
      Even a racing driver can't beat ABS on asphalt in a controlled setting.[1] On dirt roads or ice the story might be different. [1] https://youtu.be/ERE9EtOWZMU?si=s35N-IzuyPLuEoKD https://youtu.be/ERE9EtOWZMU?si=s35N-IzuyPLuEoKD
      - b112 3y ago
        ABS has nothing to do with improving braking distance. Any skilled driver, who knows their car, can do far better. For skilled drivers, ABS extends braking distance. What ABS does, is let a driver mash the pedal on full, and still steer around obstacles. Something a skilled driver can still do. One problem with these tests, is that if you disable ABS on some cars, the proportioning valve is still set to 50/50, front/rear, meaning you start to lose traction on the rear wheels, and skid. This causes a loss of control, and reduced braking power. Cars prior to ABS has the capability to adjust rear brake pressure by weight, a typical default of 70/30. Some card have ABS controllers which you can disable ABS functionality, but still retain proportioning control. Cars with proper diffs are often like this.
seanthemon 3y ago
Wow, that is actually insane. God forbid you stall the car on a busy road "sorry! Turning off parking sensor takes a few seconds.." lol A while ago I was considering replacing my 2004, but I see it's worthwhile to hold on
F-Lexx 3y ago
Which car is that?
Klonoar 3y ago
I've done a significant amount of track driving and rally driving, which is to say that I appreciate turning off traction control at points. Your immediate need to turn it off by default, for general road driving, is very strange to me. It should in no way be a blocker to you driving in the rain or in an intersection. What on earth are you driving...? > turn off the forward collision warning so it doesn't scare the shit out of me when I'm going through the drive through See, now we're talking. Every time I have a rental car it's like a waiting game to see if there's some sensor that's going to scream at me while I'm on a highway and concentrating. 100% agree that this paradigm could (and should) be rethought.
jjav 3y ago
> Starting my current car is always a pain in the ass that takes at least a minute. And this is why I'll never own a car newer than 2012 or so (give or take a few years depending on brand).
- screamingninja 3y ago
  > > Starting my current car is always a pain in the ass that takes at least a minute. > And this is why I'll never own a car newer than 2012 or so (give or take a few years depending on brand). Non sequitur.
bonton89 3y ago
Wow, I turned most of those features off in my car for similar reasons but at least they stay off. I'm sure they'll end up breaking someday preventing an inspection even though I don't use them however.
albrewer 3y ago
> turn off the forward collision warning so it doesn't scare the shit out of me I was driving a 2018(?) Golf GTI with automatic braking on an extremely hilly road. The car handled fantastically, and was an absolute joy to drive on twisty roads... until the automatic braking kicked in because it detected the sudden sharp rise of the road in front of me as a vehicle I was about to collide with due to my speed. It only happened for about a second, but it scared the daylights out of me. I sold it back to the dealership a few months into lockdowns due to car prices going nuts, but that episode of random braking was a factor for me as well (not to say it was all bad; it saved me from a few fender benders too).
neurostimulant 3y ago
> and then wait for another minute for the idle revs to drop to 900RPM before I even think of shifting out of park because the engineers thought putting zero weight oil in a highly stressed inline four with less displacement than my childhood lunchbox was a good idea. I always wondered why my neighbor's car always start at high revs (it's loud!) before dropping down after a minute (very quiet). Always startled me in the morning.

by Tanoc 3y ago

xyzelement 3y ago

OMG. What kind of car is this?

codexb 3y ago
VW for sure
Tanoc 3y ago
Lexus ES. I traded a family member my Rogue for a couple of weeks until they finish moving.

jaxx75 3y ago

Well, to be fair, the oil weight is a result of CAFE standards. Squeezing out another .5mpg at the expense of an engine needing to be replaced at 115K miles (outside of warranty, of course) is the cost. There are other costs to improve fuel economy, like being stranded on the side of the road with no spare tire when you have a flat.

GreyMolecules 3y ago

How does turning off TC keep your car from killing you in the rain? just out of curiosity. In my experience, TC has been very helpful, as it means I don't have to worry about feathering the gas pedal in heavy rain.

smilekzs 3y ago
Some implementations of TC/ESC will abruptly brake one or more of the wheels in on/off pulses, using the ABS pump, disrupting an otherwise balanced cornering car.
- b112 3y ago
  Yes. I won't buy a car I cannot disable ABS on, because it extends braking distances, plus by doing so, all traction control is off. But I honed my non-ABS driving in my teenage years, pre-ABS (for most cars at the time), on rural dirt roads, and on roads with constant snow and ice, and driving on frozen lakes. Of course, if you disable ABS, you may end up without any form of real differential, as many cars use ediff tech, which is horrible, so I now have to also vet for a true hardware, non-open diff. Sad.
  - nameequalsmain 3y ago
    Even a racing driver can't beat ABS on asphalt in a controlled setting.[1] On dirt roads or ice the story might be different. [1] https://youtu.be/ERE9EtOWZMU?si=s35N-IzuyPLuEoKD https://youtu.be/ERE9EtOWZMU?si=s35N-IzuyPLuEoKD
    - b112 3y ago
      ABS has nothing to do with improving braking distance. Any skilled driver, who knows their car, can do far better. For skilled drivers, ABS extends braking distance. What ABS does, is let a driver mash the pedal on full, and still steer around obstacles. Something a skilled driver can still do. One problem with these tests, is that if you disable ABS on some cars, the proportioning valve is still set to 50/50, front/rear, meaning you start to lose traction on the rear wheels, and skid. This causes a loss of control, and reduced braking power. Cars prior to ABS has the capability to adjust rear brake pressure by weight, a typical default of 70/30. Some card have ABS controllers which you can disable ABS functionality, but still retain proportioning control. Cars with proper diffs are often like this.

seanthemon 3y ago

Wow, that is actually insane. God forbid you stall the car on a busy road "sorry! Turning off parking sensor takes a few seconds.." lol A while ago I was considering replacing my 2004, but I see it's worthwhile to hold on

F-Lexx 3y ago

Which car is that?

Klonoar 3y ago

I've done a significant amount of track driving and rally driving, which is to say that I appreciate turning off traction control at points. Your immediate need to turn it off by default, for general road driving, is very strange to me. It should in no way be a blocker to you driving in the rain or in an intersection. What on earth are you driving...? > turn off the forward collision warning so it doesn't scare the shit out of me when I'm going through the drive through See, now we're talking. Every time I have a rental car it's like a waiting game to see if there's some sensor that's going to scream at me while I'm on a highway and concentrating. 100% agree that this paradigm could (and should) be rethought.

jjav 3y ago

> Starting my current car is always a pain in the ass that takes at least a minute. And this is why I'll never own a car newer than 2012 or so (give or take a few years depending on brand).

screamingninja 3y ago
> > Starting my current car is always a pain in the ass that takes at least a minute. > And this is why I'll never own a car newer than 2012 or so (give or take a few years depending on brand). Non sequitur.

bonton89 3y ago

Wow, I turned most of those features off in my car for similar reasons but at least they stay off. I'm sure they'll end up breaking someday preventing an inspection even though I don't use them however.

albrewer 3y ago

> turn off the forward collision warning so it doesn't scare the shit out of me I was driving a 2018(?) Golf GTI with automatic braking on an extremely hilly road. The car handled fantastically, and was an absolute joy to drive on twisty roads... until the automatic braking kicked in because it detected the sudden sharp rise of the road in front of me as a vehicle I was about to collide with due to my speed. It only happened for about a second, but it scared the daylights out of me. I sold it back to the dealership a few months into lockdowns due to car prices going nuts, but that episode of random braking was a factor for me as well (not to say it was all bad; it saved me from a few fender benders too).

neurostimulant 3y ago

> and then wait for another minute for the idle revs to drop to 900RPM before I even think of shifting out of park because the engineers thought putting zero weight oil in a highly stressed inline four with less displacement than my childhood lunchbox was a good idea. I always wondered why my neighbor's car always start at high revs (it's loud!) before dropping down after a minute (very quiet). Always startled me in the morning.