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> The lemmings supposedly committing mass suicide by leaping into the ocean were actually thrown off a cliff by the Disney filmmakers. I guess the 50s where di
by pricci 3y ago
> The lemmings supposedly committing mass suicide by leaping into the ocean were actually thrown off a cliff by the Disney filmmakers.
I guess the 50s where different times
- PaywallBuster 3y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMZlr5Gf9yY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMZlr5Gf9yY
- iancmceachern 3y agoNot different times, they're still at it
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- surge 3y agoYeah, you learn quickly in film school that documentaries edit footage however they like to tell a narrative. A lot of the incidents they describe happening in the wild are just multiple different situations clipped together, if you pay attention you'll notice some clips aren't even in the same place. There's even rumors recent footage of panicked animals were actually being caused by film crew drones, not anything happening naturally in the wild.
- peeters 3y agoI think the "different times" was referring more to the animal cruelty than the choice to stage a scene.
- iancmceachern 3y agohttps://www.disneydining.com/disney-world-animal-cruelty-charges-bb1/ https://www.disneydining.com/disney-world-animal-cruelty-cha...
- irrational 3y agoOr edit a scene together in the studio.
- optimalsolver 3y agoNot so different times: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/animals-were-harmed-hollywood-reporter-investigation-on-set-injury-death-cover-ups-659556/ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/animals-...
- graemep 3y agoMy pet hate regarding this docudrama where stuff that is just made up is mixed with real things and there is no way a viewer can tell the different. Not new of course, has always happened even in books - e.g. the "people told Columbus the world was flat" myth was made up to spice up a biography.
- Jeff_Brown 3y agoIn westerns they would tie cables to horses' legs at the right length so that they would fall in the right place as if they had been shot.
- Lio 3y agoYep the infamous “Running W” stunt. Tarantino’s talked about that quite a bit. Obviously the horse breaks its leg and then has to be put down. Pretty vile. So every take they’d end up killing a horse.
- Jensson 3y ago> So every take they’d end up killing a horse. Horrible, but maybe not as expensive as it sounds, cgi of similar quality costs much more than a horse.
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- jamiek88 3y agoI don’t think people are expressing incredulity at the expense here!
- Jensson 3y agoI know. And I think it is interesting to look at how much that costs compared to what we do today. It surprised me that animals aren't that expensive, I would have guessed that killing horses would be way more expensive.
- Kye 3y agoExpensive horses take expensive breeding, training, and maintenance. You can get a good draft horse (one bred for real work) for not much. And "hobby horse" isn't just a fun phrase.
- marcod 3y agoI find it delicious that it was a Disney filmmaker who bought the lemmings off kids and let them run into the river (luckily they can swim).
- somenameforme 3y agoThe article mentions that, "If they get wet to the skin, they 're essentially dead." Reading the Wiki on them, they're quite a bizarre little species in countless ways. Highly recommended. [1] [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemming
- the_af 3y agoMaybe I'm wrong but I read that to mean that if they get completely soaked in extreme winter weather, they'll die. This doesn't seem so bizarre. Some animals, both mammals and birds, have some protection against this because their hair/feathers are both greasy and help them keep "air cushions" that prevent water from completely soaking the body -- but if that ever happens in cold weather the animal is as good as dead, since it'll die of hypothermia before it gets dry. I may be wrong though.
- Jensson 3y agoAnimals used to the winter survives being wet, at least large ones like moose, they fall through the ice from time to time and people help them up. Maybe lemmings are so small that it wasn't worth evolving it, but it seems like a big handicap since most animals needs to drink regularly even in the winter.
- tgv 3y agoCity boy or girl? Me too, but I had some relatives with a farm, and some (quite a few, it would seem) farmers see animals as property and you can do to them whatever you want. If you need to cut their tail or their testicles for profit, you do it. Kill them? Sure. Put kittens in a bag with a few stones and throw them in a pond? Of course. And that's not looking at the industrial scale at which animals are mutilated for food. Throwing a few lemmings over a cliff is insignificant.
- ericlewis 3y agoI was with you on the first and second on, food and population control - sure. But murdering kittens for no apparent reason?
- dfxm12 3y agoNothing justifies murdering kittens. Not even Doom music.
- Fripplebubby 3y agoThe apparent reason is that you don't want to be saddled with their care and wish to be rid of them.
- watwut 3y agoThat is population control. Not the same as doing it because you want cool video.
- CivBase 3y agoI'm not sure where you are that "wild animals on my land are my property" is a popular sentiment, but it's certainly not in my neck of the woods. Farmers here absolutely kill dangerous and nuisance animals, but it's because they are dangerous and/or pests. They also commonly hunt, both for resources and for sport. But it's definitely not acceptable to drown kittens. Anyone doing that here would be rightfully treated as a monster, regardless how rural your upbringing.