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To your list of highly desirable features, I'd add four wheel disc brakes. I was pretty over the moon when we sold off the last car in the household with drums
by mauvehaus 3y ago
To your list of highly desirable features, I'd add four wheel disc brakes. I was pretty over the moon when we sold off the last car in the household with drums on the rear. Drums are a pain in the ass. Maybe they're not too bad if you deal with them often enough, but discs are simpler by miles.
...And then we bought a '47 Willys Jeep a year later. Which has 4 wheel drums. And the worlds least conveniently located master cylinder.
- wigglewoggle 3y agoI share your disdain for drums. Only issue is every four wheel disc vehicle I own still has a drum for the parking brake. Except these days they're electronic and need a scan tool to release them and get the rotor off!
- mauvehaus 3y agoElectronic drum brakes sound like my personal version of hell. I knew of the existence of electronic parking brakes, but hadn't realized that any car would be silly enough to need a scan tool to release it for service.
- roflchoppa 3y agoI’m sure there is some other modern OEM hub assembly that you could swap in when it comes time to service it. Maybe off a 4Runner/jeep?
- imp0cat 3y agoWell, supposedly drums are better for the environment (less particle pollution when braking), so expect to see more of them, not less.
- I_Am_Nous 3y agoIs the claim that they produce less particles, or that they distribute less particles because the shoes/drum is more of a closed system? Generally drums are worse brakes than disks so if they don't brake as efficiently, you'd be grinding them for longer, likely making more particles. I haven't heard much about drums lately except that cheap cars still sometimes have them in the rear.
- imp0cat 3y agoRight. The basic idea is that because new cars will be hybrid or electric, most braking will be regenerative, so drums are fine.
- I_Am_Nous 3y agoThat makes more sense, if the fronts are regenerative, that's where most of the braking force comes from so I can see drums being sufficient in the back. A lot of lightweight motorcycles (especially classic styled ones) have rear drums. The only thing I hate about driving a front disk/rear drum car is how deep the brake pedal is before you feel it activating the brakes. Going from responsive brakes to "oh shit they aren't activating yet..." panic for a second can take some getting used to!
- Moru 3y agoOh, I can't remember a single car me or my father had that had drum brakes anywhere else than on the handbrake. How old cars are we talking about? The oldest I can remember was SAAB 99, about 50 years old model.
- function_seven 3y agoMy 2012 Ford Escape has drums in the rear. I’m dreading that brake job.
- aembleton 3y agoMy wifes 2016 Skoda Citigo had drums in the rear. My previous car, a 2002 Renault Clio also did.
- mauvehaus 3y agoThe last car we had with them (before the Jeep) was a 2005 Honda Civic. It had discs in the front and drums in the rear.