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MX too bloated. Feel the power of ANTIX with RUNIT, run it RAM, setup some persistence on some storage in whichever way you like, disable and remove all the flu

MX too bloated. Feel the power of ANTIX with RUNIT, run it RAM, setup some persistence on some storage in whichever way you like, disable and remove all the fluff like conky, use IceWM as WM, and zzzfm as filemanager, make it look nice, feel the insane speed. Remaster. Then this is yours. And stays that way, whith some remastering from time to time, due to updates, whatever. Giggle like a madman for not having to care about all the useless 'make work, make work!' anymore. Relax. Edit: While you're at it, deploy https://github.com/graysky2/profile-sync-daemon https://github.com/graysky2/profile-sync-daemon / https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Profile-sync-daemon https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Profile-sync-daemon or something like that for FF. That's the icing on the cake, for FF not to access your /home , whereever that may be stored. Works wonders for Sideberry, and preserves your precious SSD. OFC that applies to any distro. Edit: s/Openbox/IceWM

lproven 3y ago
I've tried and reviewed antiX: https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/01/antix_23/ https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/01/antix_23/ For me, I think it's a mess. Four desktops, 3 file managers, multiple app menus, panels, text editors, etc. Work out one best item, pick it and use it. IMHO they need to stop shipping 3, 4, 5 or more alternatives for each function. If people have strong enough views, they can go choose their own. The same applies to Window Maker Live. It's how distros used to be in the 1990s, and it was a pain then, too... but then most of us didn't have broadband so trying out multiple tools was much harder and slower. Then, there was a reason. Now, there isn't.
- LargoLasskhyfv 3y ago
  Yes. I can understand how you see it like that. It looks like a mess. But it can be made to fit your needs. Easily. Just deinstall everthing that you don't like, install anything that's missing, choose some theme, deinstall the rest... And remaster. From there on, it's like being made for you, because you made it so :-) OFC you could say that about any distro, but then you'd lose the specific scripting for booting it from whereever, running it live in RAM, while having persistence in various ways, which is the USP of it. From that POV your review didn't go deep enough, I think. Sorry ;-) For me it's like a debian-distro-kit, enabling me to customize the shit out of it fast and easy, while having access to the whole Multiverse of everything that's Debian, it's update and administration mechanisms, and so on. But usually not needing to. Because it just works. Fast. Because in RAM. Edit: Which reminds me of Q4OS which you mentioned. Regarding the distro-kit aspect, I once added the Trinity repositories to Antix, installed it, fiddled with some superflous stuff, removed that, and remastered. BAM! Had a fucking fast trinity desktop running in RAM! Just like that. Though I'm not using that anymore, because no need. Icewm & zzzfm are enough for me.
  - lproven 3y ago
    That's absolutely fine. You do you. For me, that is way more work than I want. I am old and grumpy and want an easy life and tools that work acceptably out of the box. For playing around, that's different. Thus A2 and Haiku and things. But for work, if it needs that much work to adjust the shipped distro to me, then it is the wrong distro. There are good reasons I don't run Arch.
    - LargoLasskhyfv 3y ago
      I'm 'old' too. Born summer 1969. What makes me grumpy is the OOTB experience of any distro I tried. And I (mostly) don't want to have to compile stuff anymore. So I settled for (mostly) binary distros, like Arch, which btw. I (mostly) had no troubles with whatsoever. It just lacked 'convenience' and some scientific/technical stuff in their repositories, which I'd then have to compile again, so no, Arch had to go. Settled for Debian then, because even though their ways of doing things can seem bizarre, old-fashioned and stale, it (mostly) just works, they have it all, and when you get around their 'bizarreness' shiny new, too. Almost paradise, except for 'systemdness', which I can't stand. So there are countless derivatives with different goals and priorities, some of them for running live in RAM, some of them being especially 'free' from an ideological but impractical POV(which I also can't stand), and some of them eliminating 'systemdness'. Then there are Antix/MX whose goal seems to be to get that stuff running any way they can on any somewhat reasonable system, more or less frugal in case of Antix, rather comfortably in case of MX. While giving a shit about ideology, prioritising availability of all sorts of drivers, connectivity, convenience in very pragmatical ways. While running in RAM for speed(optionally), but still enabling persistence in various ways. This toolset of them enables me to get up and running on almost anything from very barebones images with the presses of a few function keys, some mouseclicks, some eliminating of unwanted stuff(by mouseclicks, no editing necessary, I checked), installing my stuff, choosing theme/widget/deco/whatever, and be done with it in maybe 30 minutes max initially(including that remaster thing). From there on it is absolute BLISS for me, because that way I have fast systems, looking and feeling how I like it, without getting in my way, or missing anything. For MONTHS, while still being updated, without reboots. Exceptions are kernel or fundamental library updates. These are just a few clicks in Synaptic anyways, reload, mark, apply, YÄSS, YÄSS!, gieev, gieev meee new stuff! Maybe 3 to 5 minutes daily while I'm slurping my morning coffee or tea? Too much change? Switched some core components meanwhile? Remaster in not more than 10 minutes. Reboot. Done. BLISS again. For playing around I'm tempted to try https://github.com/rochus-keller/OberonSystem3 https://github.com/rochus-keller/OberonSystem3 (since you mentioned A2 ;-)) but probably not, because I'd rather enjoy riding my new hyperbicycles more ;-)

lproven 3y ago

I've tried and reviewed antiX: https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/01/antix_23/ https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/01/antix_23/ For me, I think it's a mess. Four desktops, 3 file managers, multiple app menus, panels, text editors, etc. Work out one best item, pick it and use it. IMHO they need to stop shipping 3, 4, 5 or more alternatives for each function. If people have strong enough views, they can go choose their own. The same applies to Window Maker Live. It's how distros used to be in the 1990s, and it was a pain then, too... but then most of us didn't have broadband so trying out multiple tools was much harder and slower. Then, there was a reason. Now, there isn't.

LargoLasskhyfv 3y ago
Yes. I can understand how you see it like that. It looks like a mess. But it can be made to fit your needs. Easily. Just deinstall everthing that you don't like, install anything that's missing, choose some theme, deinstall the rest... And remaster. From there on, it's like being made for you, because you made it so :-) OFC you could say that about any distro, but then you'd lose the specific scripting for booting it from whereever, running it live in RAM, while having persistence in various ways, which is the USP of it. From that POV your review didn't go deep enough, I think. Sorry ;-) For me it's like a debian-distro-kit, enabling me to customize the shit out of it fast and easy, while having access to the whole Multiverse of everything that's Debian, it's update and administration mechanisms, and so on. But usually not needing to. Because it just works. Fast. Because in RAM. Edit: Which reminds me of Q4OS which you mentioned. Regarding the distro-kit aspect, I once added the Trinity repositories to Antix, installed it, fiddled with some superflous stuff, removed that, and remastered. BAM! Had a fucking fast trinity desktop running in RAM! Just like that. Though I'm not using that anymore, because no need. Icewm & zzzfm are enough for me.
- lproven 3y ago
  That's absolutely fine. You do you. For me, that is way more work than I want. I am old and grumpy and want an easy life and tools that work acceptably out of the box. For playing around, that's different. Thus A2 and Haiku and things. But for work, if it needs that much work to adjust the shipped distro to me, then it is the wrong distro. There are good reasons I don't run Arch.
  - LargoLasskhyfv 3y ago
    I'm 'old' too. Born summer 1969. What makes me grumpy is the OOTB experience of any distro I tried. And I (mostly) don't want to have to compile stuff anymore. So I settled for (mostly) binary distros, like Arch, which btw. I (mostly) had no troubles with whatsoever. It just lacked 'convenience' and some scientific/technical stuff in their repositories, which I'd then have to compile again, so no, Arch had to go. Settled for Debian then, because even though their ways of doing things can seem bizarre, old-fashioned and stale, it (mostly) just works, they have it all, and when you get around their 'bizarreness' shiny new, too. Almost paradise, except for 'systemdness', which I can't stand. So there are countless derivatives with different goals and priorities, some of them for running live in RAM, some of them being especially 'free' from an ideological but impractical POV(which I also can't stand), and some of them eliminating 'systemdness'. Then there are Antix/MX whose goal seems to be to get that stuff running any way they can on any somewhat reasonable system, more or less frugal in case of Antix, rather comfortably in case of MX. While giving a shit about ideology, prioritising availability of all sorts of drivers, connectivity, convenience in very pragmatical ways. While running in RAM for speed(optionally), but still enabling persistence in various ways. This toolset of them enables me to get up and running on almost anything from very barebones images with the presses of a few function keys, some mouseclicks, some eliminating of unwanted stuff(by mouseclicks, no editing necessary, I checked), installing my stuff, choosing theme/widget/deco/whatever, and be done with it in maybe 30 minutes max initially(including that remaster thing). From there on it is absolute BLISS for me, because that way I have fast systems, looking and feeling how I like it, without getting in my way, or missing anything. For MONTHS, while still being updated, without reboots. Exceptions are kernel or fundamental library updates. These are just a few clicks in Synaptic anyways, reload, mark, apply, YÄSS, YÄSS!, gieev, gieev meee new stuff! Maybe 3 to 5 minutes daily while I'm slurping my morning coffee or tea? Too much change? Switched some core components meanwhile? Remaster in not more than 10 minutes. Reboot. Done. BLISS again. For playing around I'm tempted to try https://github.com/rochus-keller/OberonSystem3 https://github.com/rochus-keller/OberonSystem3 (since you mentioned A2 ;-)) but probably not, because I'd rather enjoy riding my new hyperbicycles more ;-)