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so you get your "402 Payment Required".

by eddythompson80 3y ago

matheusmoreira 3y ago
Not really. They insist on sending it to me for free with ads included.
- mvdtnz 3y ago
  Literally this entire thing is about Youtube refusing to send the video to non-premium users who are blocking ads. Do you even know what you're commenting on?
  - matheusmoreira 3y ago
    It's actually about a silly arms race with uBlock Origin which they'll lose because we're the ones in control of the client. It's only a matter of time before they fix the "YouTube can detect uBlock Origin" bug.
    - eddythompson80 3y ago
      I hate to tell you who is in control of chrome. It wasn’t too long ago that Google announced changes to chrome that ublock origin thought would completely stop it from working. They found a way, but nothing stopping another future change that makes it much harder. Also they just need to start delivering YouTube player as a wasm binary blob.
      - matheusmoreira 3y ago
        Funny thing is I'm not even opposed to their ManifestV3 thing. I agree with their browser extension security arguments and think their proposed changes are absolutely a step in the right direction. It's just that uBlock Origin is so useful and trusted that those restrictions should not apply to it. Frankly uBlock Origin should be literally built into browsers just like pop up blockers back in the day. Only thing stopping this is the inherent conflicts of interest. Google being an ad company and Firefox accepting Google money. Brave is the one going in that direction, its ad blocker is built-in. > Also they just need to start delivering YouTube player as a wasm binary blob. I eagerly await the day someone smarter than me creates an AI ad blocker capable of filtering ads, brands, anything really from audio and video streams. Imagine watching a sporting event and the AI just kills all those field perimeter ads. Awesome.
  - JAlexoid 3y ago
    I hate how hypocritical this whole issue is. People will go on a massive tirade, over GPL violation... then turn around and completely disregard the license terms that content is being delivered to them with. The irony of it all is that the whole IT community literally relies on strong copyright enforcement, including FOSS community... yet many fail to extend the same courtesy to people making videos.
    - matheusmoreira 3y ago
      "People" does not include me. I advocate for the complete abolishment of copyright. GPL included. By the way, we are under exactly zero obligation to watch any advertisements, moral or otherwise. Best they can do is hope we watch them. They're not entitled to our attention.

so you get your "402 Payment Required".

matheusmoreira 3y ago

Not really. They insist on sending it to me for free with ads included.

mvdtnz 3y ago
Literally this entire thing is about Youtube refusing to send the video to non-premium users who are blocking ads. Do you even know what you're commenting on?
- matheusmoreira 3y ago
  It's actually about a silly arms race with uBlock Origin which they'll lose because we're the ones in control of the client. It's only a matter of time before they fix the "YouTube can detect uBlock Origin" bug.
  - eddythompson80 3y ago
    I hate to tell you who is in control of chrome. It wasn’t too long ago that Google announced changes to chrome that ublock origin thought would completely stop it from working. They found a way, but nothing stopping another future change that makes it much harder. Also they just need to start delivering YouTube player as a wasm binary blob.
    - matheusmoreira 3y ago
      Funny thing is I'm not even opposed to their ManifestV3 thing. I agree with their browser extension security arguments and think their proposed changes are absolutely a step in the right direction. It's just that uBlock Origin is so useful and trusted that those restrictions should not apply to it. Frankly uBlock Origin should be literally built into browsers just like pop up blockers back in the day. Only thing stopping this is the inherent conflicts of interest. Google being an ad company and Firefox accepting Google money. Brave is the one going in that direction, its ad blocker is built-in. > Also they just need to start delivering YouTube player as a wasm binary blob. I eagerly await the day someone smarter than me creates an AI ad blocker capable of filtering ads, brands, anything really from audio and video streams. Imagine watching a sporting event and the AI just kills all those field perimeter ads. Awesome.
- JAlexoid 3y ago
  I hate how hypocritical this whole issue is. People will go on a massive tirade, over GPL violation... then turn around and completely disregard the license terms that content is being delivered to them with. The irony of it all is that the whole IT community literally relies on strong copyright enforcement, including FOSS community... yet many fail to extend the same courtesy to people making videos.
  - matheusmoreira 3y ago
    "People" does not include me. I advocate for the complete abolishment of copyright. GPL included. By the way, we are under exactly zero obligation to watch any advertisements, moral or otherwise. Best they can do is hope we watch them. They're not entitled to our attention.