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Their privacy policy lists OpenAI as one of their partners for data processing, which indicates that this is happening not on your device, and data is also shar

Their privacy policy lists OpenAI as one of their partners for data processing, which indicates that this is happening not on your device, and data is also shared with third parties. For me this is the main counterargument against apps like these. I want to feel free to post any information into this without thinking about who may read or use it. Local is the only way to go for software like this in my opinion.

thomashop 3y ago
They say in their about page: "We will never monetize your data. We will never monetize your attention. And we believe that the only way we can build towards the future we envision is through the continuous reinforcement of mutual trust and respect. Currently, we leverage best-in-class cloud-hosted models, including ones from OpenAI, Anthropic, and a selection of open-source options. Over time, we plan to reduce external dependence and localize computing to run on-device."
- NetOpWibby 3y ago
  Sounds like reverse-engineering to me
- Veserv 3y ago
  Great, then they should just put their promise into a legally binding irrevocable clause in their terms of service and also legally guarantee that their entire business will shut down if they violate it. They are never going to do it anyways, so no harm in enforcing what they are never going to do.
- JohnFen 3y ago
  And what reason does anyone have to put any faith in that? And their service providers (OpenAI, etc.) may not be on the same page as them.
  - thomashop 3y ago
    I'm not saying I would put any faith in it. The company could start genuinely believing those values but the values of a company change over time with more people investing.
- sillywalk 3y ago
  How do they intend to make money?
  - notpachet 3y ago
    "After the untimely passing of her oil tycoon father, Mei finds herself with more money than she knows what to do with. Dot helpfully suggests transferring a few hundred thousand dollars to New Computer as a thank you for Dot's continued existence."
    - sillywalk 3y ago
      "... or else."
- imglorp 3y ago
  Never is a funny word to see in a TOS, like those "Unlimited" service plans. It wouldn't be cynical to say how hollow such promises ring.
- neonnoodle 3y ago
  Maybe they won't monetize your data, but I bet whoever acquires the company will.
- gorjusborg 3y ago
  '... and by never, we mean until investors get impatient or we are indispensible to you'
TaylorAlexander 3y ago
Yeah reading this web page I just keep thinking “Mei has trusted a cloud based service to be her personal confidant for all aspects of her life including text and documents. This will end poorly for Mei.”
- deleted 3y ago
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crooked-v 3y ago
That also means it's useless for interacting with your life if your life happens to include anything above a PG-13 rating, what with how cloyingly pearl-clutching the OpenAI offerings are about sex or violence.
pradn 3y ago
I don't want to be limited by the little CPU on my phone. Maybe one day it'll be powerful enough for all these tasks. But until then, I want a big H100 computing for me. And I want to pay for it! I don't want to be in a position where the service is trying to give me as little compute as possible. Putting me at the center, I want it to do whatever massive compute it needs to to make my life easier.

thomashop 3y ago

They say in their about page: "We will never monetize your data. We will never monetize your attention. And we believe that the only way we can build towards the future we envision is through the continuous reinforcement of mutual trust and respect. Currently, we leverage best-in-class cloud-hosted models, including ones from OpenAI, Anthropic, and a selection of open-source options. Over time, we plan to reduce external dependence and localize computing to run on-device."

NetOpWibby 3y ago
Sounds like reverse-engineering to me
Veserv 3y ago
Great, then they should just put their promise into a legally binding irrevocable clause in their terms of service and also legally guarantee that their entire business will shut down if they violate it. They are never going to do it anyways, so no harm in enforcing what they are never going to do.
JohnFen 3y ago
And what reason does anyone have to put any faith in that? And their service providers (OpenAI, etc.) may not be on the same page as them.
- thomashop 3y ago
  I'm not saying I would put any faith in it. The company could start genuinely believing those values but the values of a company change over time with more people investing.
sillywalk 3y ago
How do they intend to make money?
- notpachet 3y ago
  "After the untimely passing of her oil tycoon father, Mei finds herself with more money than she knows what to do with. Dot helpfully suggests transferring a few hundred thousand dollars to New Computer as a thank you for Dot's continued existence."
  - sillywalk 3y ago
    "... or else."
imglorp 3y ago
Never is a funny word to see in a TOS, like those "Unlimited" service plans. It wouldn't be cynical to say how hollow such promises ring.
neonnoodle 3y ago
Maybe they won't monetize your data, but I bet whoever acquires the company will.
gorjusborg 3y ago
'... and by never, we mean until investors get impatient or we are indispensible to you'

TaylorAlexander 3y ago

Yeah reading this web page I just keep thinking “Mei has trusted a cloud based service to be her personal confidant for all aspects of her life including text and documents. This will end poorly for Mei.”

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crooked-v 3y ago

That also means it's useless for interacting with your life if your life happens to include anything above a PG-13 rating, what with how cloyingly pearl-clutching the OpenAI offerings are about sex or violence.

pradn 3y ago

I don't want to be limited by the little CPU on my phone. Maybe one day it'll be powerful enough for all these tasks. But until then, I want a big H100 computing for me. And I want to pay for it! I don't want to be in a position where the service is trying to give me as little compute as possible. Putting me at the center, I want it to do whatever massive compute it needs to to make my life easier.