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Totally. And my favourite: Netflix. They spent so much time and effort with the whole microservices architecture and being a "tech business" that they forgot th

Totally. And my favourite: Netflix. They spent so much time and effort with the whole microservices architecture and being a "tech business" that they forgot that companies like PornHub do a much larger scale of video and networking than they do without any of that complex nonsense.

dewey 3y ago
What makes Netflix not a tech business? Do you have any sources for that claim that MindGeek uses a much more boring setup vs. what Netflix is doing? PH has the advantage that it's only browser based and doesn't have to be available on a massive number of (legacy) devices, tv platforms, game consoles, phones etc.
- rchaud 3y ago
  Their product is TV shows, not "tech". Same as Spotify with audio. Walmart has a ton of tech underpinning their supply chain...should they be valued as a tech company too?
vel0city 3y ago
Netflix is like 10% of all internet traffic. Pornhub doesn't move nearly as many bits. https://inform.tmforum.org/features-and-opinion/six-companies-dominate-network-traffic-as-speed-and-access-grows https://inform.tmforum.org/features-and-opinion/six-companie... Is Netflix a tech company today? Probably not. They're more of a media company. They focus so much on original content these days. I'd say back when they were pretty much creating the movie streaming industry they were though.
- tester756 3y ago
  >Netflix is like 10% of all internet traffic. Pornhub doesn't move nearly as many bits. On the other hand they serve more people/visitors Also Netflix uses edge/ISP-level CDNs more heavily because e.g they have way, way, way less content than PH https://about.netflix.com/en/news/how-netflix-works-with-isps-around-the-globe-to-deliver-a-great-viewing-experience https://about.netflix.com/en/news/how-netflix-works-with-isp... >We also give qualifying ISPs the same Open Connect Appliances (OCAs) that we use in our internet interconnection locations. After these appliances are installed in an ISP’s data center, almost all Netflix content is served from the local OCAs rather than “upstream” from the internet. Many ISPs take advantage of this option, in addition to local network interconnection, because it reduces the amount of capacity they need to build to the rest of the internet since Netflix is no longer a significant factor in that capacity. This has the dual benefit of reducing the ISP’s cost of operation and ensuring the best possible Netflix experience for their subscribers. How is even Netflix 10% of all traffic with those "CDNs" at ISP's server room? How is it even accounted in your statistics, I do wonder.
legitster 3y ago
Netflix is a also a low margin business because most of their content now has per-view licensing fees associated with it. But at least they are transparent with themselves and investors about their margins and are not promising huge future windfalls!

dewey 3y ago

What makes Netflix not a tech business? Do you have any sources for that claim that MindGeek uses a much more boring setup vs. what Netflix is doing? PH has the advantage that it's only browser based and doesn't have to be available on a massive number of (legacy) devices, tv platforms, game consoles, phones etc.

rchaud 3y ago
Their product is TV shows, not "tech". Same as Spotify with audio. Walmart has a ton of tech underpinning their supply chain...should they be valued as a tech company too?

vel0city 3y ago

Netflix is like 10% of all internet traffic. Pornhub doesn't move nearly as many bits. https://inform.tmforum.org/features-and-opinion/six-companies-dominate-network-traffic-as-speed-and-access-grows https://inform.tmforum.org/features-and-opinion/six-companie... Is Netflix a tech company today? Probably not. They're more of a media company. They focus so much on original content these days. I'd say back when they were pretty much creating the movie streaming industry they were though.

tester756 3y ago
>Netflix is like 10% of all internet traffic. Pornhub doesn't move nearly as many bits. On the other hand they serve more people/visitors Also Netflix uses edge/ISP-level CDNs more heavily because e.g they have way, way, way less content than PH https://about.netflix.com/en/news/how-netflix-works-with-isps-around-the-globe-to-deliver-a-great-viewing-experience https://about.netflix.com/en/news/how-netflix-works-with-isp... >We also give qualifying ISPs the same Open Connect Appliances (OCAs) that we use in our internet interconnection locations. After these appliances are installed in an ISP’s data center, almost all Netflix content is served from the local OCAs rather than “upstream” from the internet. Many ISPs take advantage of this option, in addition to local network interconnection, because it reduces the amount of capacity they need to build to the rest of the internet since Netflix is no longer a significant factor in that capacity. This has the dual benefit of reducing the ISP’s cost of operation and ensuring the best possible Netflix experience for their subscribers. How is even Netflix 10% of all traffic with those "CDNs" at ISP's server room? How is it even accounted in your statistics, I do wonder.

legitster 3y ago

Netflix is a also a low margin business because most of their content now has per-view licensing fees associated with it. But at least they are transparent with themselves and investors about their margins and are not promising huge future windfalls!