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People might be less disgusted with paying for YouTube if their model was "make a good product for end users" instead of "premium is to make the experience less

People might be less disgusted with paying for YouTube if their model was "make a good product for end users" instead of "premium is to make the experience less worse by removing the worst part of a bad experience".

NemoNobody 3y ago
This is exactly why I refuse to give Google money voluntarily. All of my issues with YouTube they created intentionally. I just recently found a trick that had YouTube play in the background when I switched tabs and I recalled how life was before they created Red and it annoyed me all over again. Google is the devil of today's tech companies - most of what they do utilizes the outright theft of our data and what they do with it is purely manipulative in nature.
- JAlexoid 3y ago
  So... Why do you use YouTube? Ask your creators to move to something like Patreon and you'll be free. You'll have to pay, but you will not be paying Google. Why do you personally think that you're entitled to consume content from YouTube?
  - nvy 3y ago
    This is going to sound harsh but maybe your videos just aren't worth that much monetarily? You aren't entitled to a revenue purely because you upload some stuff onto someone else's computer. If you produced content that had value worth paying for, then people would happily pay it. Perhaps if "getting screwed" upsets you so much, you should move to a paid, subscription-only model where your content will get 100% of the earnings (you feel) it merits.
hysan 3y ago
Same. I’m still waiting (8+ years now) for their *promised* “better” replacement for subscription collections.[1] Until that day comes (along with all the other features that I used to use but have since been removed (not replaced)), I will not pay for a still not as good as the past subscription service. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19954740 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19954740

NemoNobody 3y ago

This is exactly why I refuse to give Google money voluntarily. All of my issues with YouTube they created intentionally. I just recently found a trick that had YouTube play in the background when I switched tabs and I recalled how life was before they created Red and it annoyed me all over again. Google is the devil of today's tech companies - most of what they do utilizes the outright theft of our data and what they do with it is purely manipulative in nature.

JAlexoid 3y ago
So... Why do you use YouTube? Ask your creators to move to something like Patreon and you'll be free. You'll have to pay, but you will not be paying Google. Why do you personally think that you're entitled to consume content from YouTube?
- nvy 3y ago
  This is going to sound harsh but maybe your videos just aren't worth that much monetarily? You aren't entitled to a revenue purely because you upload some stuff onto someone else's computer. If you produced content that had value worth paying for, then people would happily pay it. Perhaps if "getting screwed" upsets you so much, you should move to a paid, subscription-only model where your content will get 100% of the earnings (you feel) it merits.

hysan 3y ago

Same. I’m still waiting (8+ years now) for their *promised* “better” replacement for subscription collections.[1] Until that day comes (along with all the other features that I used to use but have since been removed (not replaced)), I will not pay for a still not as good as the past subscription service. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19954740 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19954740