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It's like using TiVo to skip commercials. I don't disagree with YT attempting to show me ads, but I have control of my computer, and if I can direct my compute

It's like using TiVo to skip commercials. I don't disagree with YT attempting to show me ads, but I have control of my computer, and if I can direct my computer not to show them to me, I will. I simply won't tolerate ads for any reason. I find the experience user hostile. So I'm always going to adopt some path that delivers me content without ads. And in choosing which path to adopt, I will always choose the least costly. Right now that's free. If in the future google successfully blocks in-browser ad blockers, I will either pay for YT premium or a third party service that downloads and delivers the content without ads, whichever is cheaper.

NemoNobody 3y ago
This is exactly how I feel with the exception of paying for YouTube premium. If I am ever unable to watch stupid videos on YouTube without seeing ads, I won't watch on YouTube. They are creating a reason to black market a free product and I find it hilarious how quickly the market is responding to that demand.
JAlexoid 3y ago
So what you're saying is that I, someone that makes woodworking videos on YouTube, have to accept you getting my videos without compensation. Because I, not you, choose to host them on YouTube and give Google about half of revenue from ads. And now because I chose YouTube - you feel that it's OK for you to screw me... This is the level of entitlement I will never accept.
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- effingwewt 3y ago
  Wow and you speak of entitlement. See- you made a choice, but we aren't allowed to. Having an ad doesn't mean we have to watch it, same as with any radio or tv commercial it can be muted or the channel changed until it's over. youtube wouldn't be the platform it is today if it hadn't begged us all to host videos in the past. And since when does posting something online just entitle you to money? People forget the internet existed before people got a share of ad revenue. It used to be for love of the game, now it's all just gimmie $.
- archontes 3y ago
  Hi. My personal solution to this is that I subscribe to a few patreons. I do want creators I appreciate to be paid and get to create more good things. I'm not willing to tolerate annoyance, and I'm not willing to play the cable tv game. I read an article about how Ticketmaster has a kickback scheme with artists, where artists price their tickets low, ticketmaster charges big fees, and kicks them back to the artists, so ticketmaster is a hired bad guy and the artists looks good. I get that you might not want to get a CDN for your content, and manage your users' ux yourself. But when you pick youtube to distribute your stuff, you getting dinged when folks circumvent youtube's annoyance engine is just collateral damage, and you're going to have to accept some percentage of folks doing that in exchange for utilizing YT and mentally checking out. In addition, I have a very hard time feeling like I'm screwing you when all I'm doing is requesting a webpage, and instructing my browser to render half of the delivered information. If they sold gasoline for $1 off but you had to watch a bunch of ads on their little screen, are you 'screwing' them by sitting in your car while they play? I don't even feel bad about the hypothetical future where I pay some third party site that scrapes youtube and resells their stuff ad-free for less than a youtube premium subscription, because it puts a practical limit on youtube's ability to inflate the cost. The higher the cost, the more lucrative it is to sell a slightly cheaper alternative. I may pay for YT premium, but I'll always support the existence of a competing black market because of the pressure it exerts. When it becomes not viable, I suppose I and everyone else will do something else, but for now I sleep well at night. Good luck with your videos.

NemoNobody 3y ago

This is exactly how I feel with the exception of paying for YouTube premium. If I am ever unable to watch stupid videos on YouTube without seeing ads, I won't watch on YouTube. They are creating a reason to black market a free product and I find it hilarious how quickly the market is responding to that demand.

JAlexoid 3y ago

So what you're saying is that I, someone that makes woodworking videos on YouTube, have to accept you getting my videos without compensation. Because I, not you, choose to host them on YouTube and give Google about half of revenue from ads. And now because I chose YouTube - you feel that it's OK for you to screw me... This is the level of entitlement I will never accept.

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effingwewt 3y ago
Wow and you speak of entitlement. See- you made a choice, but we aren't allowed to. Having an ad doesn't mean we have to watch it, same as with any radio or tv commercial it can be muted or the channel changed until it's over. youtube wouldn't be the platform it is today if it hadn't begged us all to host videos in the past. And since when does posting something online just entitle you to money? People forget the internet existed before people got a share of ad revenue. It used to be for love of the game, now it's all just gimmie $.
archontes 3y ago
Hi. My personal solution to this is that I subscribe to a few patreons. I do want creators I appreciate to be paid and get to create more good things. I'm not willing to tolerate annoyance, and I'm not willing to play the cable tv game. I read an article about how Ticketmaster has a kickback scheme with artists, where artists price their tickets low, ticketmaster charges big fees, and kicks them back to the artists, so ticketmaster is a hired bad guy and the artists looks good. I get that you might not want to get a CDN for your content, and manage your users' ux yourself. But when you pick youtube to distribute your stuff, you getting dinged when folks circumvent youtube's annoyance engine is just collateral damage, and you're going to have to accept some percentage of folks doing that in exchange for utilizing YT and mentally checking out. In addition, I have a very hard time feeling like I'm screwing you when all I'm doing is requesting a webpage, and instructing my browser to render half of the delivered information. If they sold gasoline for $1 off but you had to watch a bunch of ads on their little screen, are you 'screwing' them by sitting in your car while they play? I don't even feel bad about the hypothetical future where I pay some third party site that scrapes youtube and resells their stuff ad-free for less than a youtube premium subscription, because it puts a practical limit on youtube's ability to inflate the cost. The higher the cost, the more lucrative it is to sell a slightly cheaper alternative. I may pay for YT premium, but I'll always support the existence of a competing black market because of the pressure it exerts. When it becomes not viable, I suppose I and everyone else will do something else, but for now I sleep well at night. Good luck with your videos.