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This is what you get with the creeping smartphonization of general purpose computers. The x86 side doesn't look bright either due to MS slowly forcing TPM. The

This is what you get with the creeping smartphonization of general purpose computers. The x86 side doesn't look bright either due to MS slowly forcing TPM. There is a good reason UEFI is stored on a QSPI flash.

jdiez17 3y ago
While I hate the gradual death of general purpose computing as much as the next nerd, this bug in particular has nothing to do with it.
- userbinator 3y ago
  It does --- if you consider that this doesn't happen on PCs, it only happened to Apple because they believe they own and control the whole software/hardware stack. On a PC, the situation is different. At worst, with bad GPU drivers, you can still fallback to good old 640x480 VGA, or a slightly better generic unaccelerated VESA framebuffer, and be able to troubleshoot from there.
  - userbinator 3y ago
    Care to give a counterargument? I have several decades of experience with PC hardware.
    - sounds 3y ago
      I can't think of one, so this is only a halfhearted attempt (not the GP here)... maybe he's focusing on the mismatched firmware vs. OS version and how that is more closely analogous to a bad BIOS flash? I'm undermining my own counterargument... On a PC, a bad BIOS flash is recoverable. Some have two BIOSes - like on video cards. Some have a recovery mode via a USB stick. And attaching a programmer to the SPI flash is also a viable recovery method... Maybe he doesn't think any of the mac firmware environment is really that different from a general purpose computer? Ok, I don't know what the counterarguments are. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
shiroiuma 3y ago
>The x86 side doesn't look bright either due to MS slowly forcing TPM. The x86 side is fine: just don't use MS operating systems.