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Well, you can't pay for Youtube. You can pay for a bundle of some mostly unrelated products that's named Youtube Premium, or you can live with an insanely degra

by yifanl 3y ago

Well, you can't pay for Youtube. You can pay for a bundle of some mostly unrelated products that's named Youtube Premium, or you can live with an insanely degraded product experience on Youtube, but you can't pay for Youtube.

JAlexoid 3y ago
YouTube Premium is ad-free YouTube. That's literally "paying for YouTube". But it sure seems that you're trying to rationalize your unwillingness to pay for something and it does sound very entitled.
- yifanl 3y ago
  Am I paying for an ad-free Youtube or a Spotify competitor? I'm not at all confident the money I'd be paying is going to the creators of the videos, or even feature development of the main Youtube platform.
  - JAlexoid 3y ago
    Creators get the income from views, with any copyrighted material licensing subtracted and a cut to YouTube. But no one is forcing you to use YouTube, it's just way more accessible for any content creator that can't spend weeks in getting a commercial license for music and such. But I have good news for you. Many creators have Patreons, that serves video.
- bravoetch 3y ago
  Eh, you're really just paying to remove ads. The rest of the product is available free already.
  - digging 3y ago
    Several creators I watch have said they get more profit sharing from premium views than ad views. So even though it pains me to give money to Google "just" to make their product not shitty (removing ads and allowing background play, back when I had goog products on my phone), it's also paying content creators more. I prefer to subscribe and watch on Nebula to support them more... but YouTube has such a good mix of content that isn't on Nebula that I find myself using it as a hub regardless.
    - TremendousJudge 3y ago
      Do they get paid from premium views if their videos were demonetized?
- hightrix 3y ago
  It isn’t adfree. It is “no ads inserted by Google”. In-video promotions are ads. You cannot pay to block them.
  - JAlexoid 3y ago
    You can, however, skip them immediately.
    - hightrix 3y ago
      You're absolutely right. I use SponsorBlock and uBlock Origin on Youtube and will continue to do so until there is a way to pay to 1) remove all ads and 2) remove all data collection by Google. Until then, I'll continue paying with my data while blocking ads. I will not pay for content twice or more.
      - JAlexoid 3y ago
        So you want not data collection by Google on YouTube, that is Google. That literally means that unless Google spins off YouTube, you will screw the creators on YouTube.
        hightrix 3y ago
        No, it means that I'm willing to pay Google for YouTube without Google Ads with either my money or my data. I will not pay with both. It is that simple.
- pixxel 3y ago
  Please stop spamming this thread. It’s unhealthy.
itsoktocry 3y ago
>You can pay for some unrelated product that's named Youtube Premium What do you mean "unrelated"? For the price of your Spotify subscription, you get an YouTube Music and ad-free YouTube. Seems like a good value prop. I'm a subscriber.
- yifanl 3y ago
  I mean unrelated as in unrelated, I, nor anybody have I talked to want a Youtube Music subscription or yet another podcast app.
  - JAlexoid 3y ago
    Most of ads on YouTube are there to cover copyrighted music. YouTube Music is the free addon.
  - itsoktocry 3y ago
    >I mean unrelated as in unrelated Okay, we've established you don't know what unrelated means. YouTube with no ads is $12 a month. How can it be more clear? >I, nor anybody have I talked to want a Youtube Music subscription or yet another podcast app. I'm sure some of these people happily subscribe to Spotify, and can't spot a good deal staring them in the face.
    - brewdad 3y ago
      I happily subscribe to Spotify because it just works better for me. I would subscribe to YT Premium if I could get YT only for like $5-7. I'm not paying $14, or realistically whatever the family plan is up to now, for ad-free YT and an inferior music experience. So YT doesn't get any money from me.
  - verdverm 3y ago
    I recently left Spotify because their web app makes my monitors flicker when it gains focus and they inserted ads into podcasts. What am I paying for with Spotify if not ad removal, just like YT? I actually bumped my YT plan to family and put my parents on it. They didn't know about ad free YT, now they don't know how they went without it.
javawizard 3y ago
Can you elaborate? It seems like you're just being pedantic about what it means to "pay for YouTube".

by yifanl 3y ago

JAlexoid 3y ago

YouTube Premium is ad-free YouTube. That's literally "paying for YouTube". But it sure seems that you're trying to rationalize your unwillingness to pay for something and it does sound very entitled.

yifanl 3y ago
Am I paying for an ad-free Youtube or a Spotify competitor? I'm not at all confident the money I'd be paying is going to the creators of the videos, or even feature development of the main Youtube platform.
- JAlexoid 3y ago
  Creators get the income from views, with any copyrighted material licensing subtracted and a cut to YouTube. But no one is forcing you to use YouTube, it's just way more accessible for any content creator that can't spend weeks in getting a commercial license for music and such. But I have good news for you. Many creators have Patreons, that serves video.
bravoetch 3y ago
Eh, you're really just paying to remove ads. The rest of the product is available free already.
- digging 3y ago
  Several creators I watch have said they get more profit sharing from premium views than ad views. So even though it pains me to give money to Google "just" to make their product not shitty (removing ads and allowing background play, back when I had goog products on my phone), it's also paying content creators more. I prefer to subscribe and watch on Nebula to support them more... but YouTube has such a good mix of content that isn't on Nebula that I find myself using it as a hub regardless.
  - TremendousJudge 3y ago
    Do they get paid from premium views if their videos were demonetized?
hightrix 3y ago
It isn’t adfree. It is “no ads inserted by Google”. In-video promotions are ads. You cannot pay to block them.
- JAlexoid 3y ago
  You can, however, skip them immediately.
  - hightrix 3y ago
    You're absolutely right. I use SponsorBlock and uBlock Origin on Youtube and will continue to do so until there is a way to pay to 1) remove all ads and 2) remove all data collection by Google. Until then, I'll continue paying with my data while blocking ads. I will not pay for content twice or more.
    - JAlexoid 3y ago
      So you want not data collection by Google on YouTube, that is Google. That literally means that unless Google spins off YouTube, you will screw the creators on YouTube.
      - hightrix 3y ago
        No, it means that I'm willing to pay Google for YouTube without Google Ads with either my money or my data. I will not pay with both. It is that simple.
pixxel 3y ago
Please stop spamming this thread. It’s unhealthy.

itsoktocry 3y ago

>You can pay for some unrelated product that's named Youtube Premium What do you mean "unrelated"? For the price of your Spotify subscription, you get an YouTube Music and ad-free YouTube. Seems like a good value prop. I'm a subscriber.

yifanl 3y ago
I mean unrelated as in unrelated, I, nor anybody have I talked to want a Youtube Music subscription or yet another podcast app.
- JAlexoid 3y ago
  Most of ads on YouTube are there to cover copyrighted music. YouTube Music is the free addon.
- itsoktocry 3y ago
  >I mean unrelated as in unrelated Okay, we've established you don't know what unrelated means. YouTube with no ads is $12 a month. How can it be more clear? >I, nor anybody have I talked to want a Youtube Music subscription or yet another podcast app. I'm sure some of these people happily subscribe to Spotify, and can't spot a good deal staring them in the face.
  - brewdad 3y ago
    I happily subscribe to Spotify because it just works better for me. I would subscribe to YT Premium if I could get YT only for like $5-7. I'm not paying $14, or realistically whatever the family plan is up to now, for ad-free YT and an inferior music experience. So YT doesn't get any money from me.
- verdverm 3y ago
  I recently left Spotify because their web app makes my monitors flicker when it gains focus and they inserted ads into podcasts. What am I paying for with Spotify if not ad removal, just like YT? I actually bumped my YT plan to family and put my parents on it. They didn't know about ad free YT, now they don't know how they went without it.

javawizard 3y ago

Can you elaborate? It seems like you're just being pedantic about what it means to "pay for YouTube".