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I've wanted to purchase a Leemote laptop/computer for a while now, and each time I go searching for them I come back empty handed. That being said, a quick Goo

I've wanted to purchase a Leemote laptop/computer for a while now, and each time I go searching for them I come back empty handed. That being said, a quick Google search did return valid results this time around, particularly that it is for sale on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Screen-Lemote-Yeeloong-8101_B-Netbook/dp/B005XH10NQ http://www.amazon.com/Screen-Lemote-Yeeloong-8101_B-Netbook/... It is a $499 dollar 10.1" netbook that runs at 1 Ghz with 1 GB of ram and a 160 GB hard disk. With a display at 1024 x 600, which is slightly smaller than an iPad 1/2 screen. If you are into freedom it might be worth it, but i'd have a hard time getting development work done on a screen that small, let alone on something running at 1 Ghz with a single core.

gioele 15y ago
Actually I hope that developers start using less powerful machines with less screen estate, less memory, less CPU power and less battery. That should make them care about things like focused UX, memory consumption and power-aware programming. I used a slow PowerPC machine with Linux for a while. After that I really realised how important is to use non-proprietary packages (do you want to scan? here is a 20KB x86-only binary needed for some strange DRM thing) or how important it is to decouple applications from libraries (so that you have to compile less things and spend less time watching your compiler run).
- X-Istence 15y ago
  I work on building distributed fault tolerant high performance server systems. Compiling all of the code for the project on a Core 2 Duo with 4 GB of ram takes about 2 minutes and uses about 2.5 Gb of ram while linking. I don't care about power consumption or UX with what I am currently working on, it is going to be running on 64 core beasts with 128 GB's of ram... That being said, as a developer I still want a generous amount of screen real estate to get more work done faster, the more code I can display on my screen the better I can and faster I can develop without having to get my tasks back on track, without having to context switch. I understand where you are coming from, and I understand the idea behind it, but at the end of the day I want to spend less time waiting for my compiler.
wazoox 15y ago
I have an (old) aspire one with about the same characteristics, but for the processor which is an Atom and the RAM which is 512MB. Limited memory is the only seriously annoying factor for web browsing, but I have no problem running vim or emacs on this machine... And you can connect it to a bigger screen. And it's really lightweight.
- X-Istence 15y ago
  The biggest thing for me is the processor speed, and the ram. When I am linking our proprietary code base it can use up to 2.5 Gb of ram ...
  - wazoox 15y ago
    YMMV. Anything running X-Window, a browser and vim is OK for me. I could develop on a 300 Mhz Ultra-5 (I have one :)
reinhardt 15y ago
"a quick Google search did return valid results this time around, particularly that it is for sale on Amazon." It's kinda amusing that in your quest for more RMS-inspired freedom you came in contact with two of his companies-non-gratae.
- X-Istence 15y ago
  I didn't really want it for RMS-inspired freedom, as a hardware hacker/tinkerer I think it would be interesting to own a machine where I could change the way the BIOS worked, where I can get full access to the datasheets. Some of RMS's policies and ideas and thoughts seem completely foreign to me... for example, I absolutely love my iPhone and enjoy working on OS X as my day to day machine, but every so often I really just want to tinker and that is when I enjoy hardware/electronics (such as the MSP430, Atmel AVR, and others)...
  - homosaur 15y ago
    Yeah, this is the same reason I would like it. I'd actually like to hack on the BIOS and learn more about the full stack of technology in general. I think if you only worked in terminal it would be quite enough beef to run with. I think X would even work alright if you ran with a low end WM or none at all. You're probably not going to get LibreOffice going but I bet Abiword runs great. I was running X on Pentium II with no WM recently so I think it would be good on this machine.

gioele 15y ago

Actually I hope that developers start using less powerful machines with less screen estate, less memory, less CPU power and less battery. That should make them care about things like focused UX, memory consumption and power-aware programming. I used a slow PowerPC machine with Linux for a while. After that I really realised how important is to use non-proprietary packages (do you want to scan? here is a 20KB x86-only binary needed for some strange DRM thing) or how important it is to decouple applications from libraries (so that you have to compile less things and spend less time watching your compiler run).

X-Istence 15y ago
I work on building distributed fault tolerant high performance server systems. Compiling all of the code for the project on a Core 2 Duo with 4 GB of ram takes about 2 minutes and uses about 2.5 Gb of ram while linking. I don't care about power consumption or UX with what I am currently working on, it is going to be running on 64 core beasts with 128 GB's of ram... That being said, as a developer I still want a generous amount of screen real estate to get more work done faster, the more code I can display on my screen the better I can and faster I can develop without having to get my tasks back on track, without having to context switch. I understand where you are coming from, and I understand the idea behind it, but at the end of the day I want to spend less time waiting for my compiler.

wazoox 15y ago

I have an (old) aspire one with about the same characteristics, but for the processor which is an Atom and the RAM which is 512MB. Limited memory is the only seriously annoying factor for web browsing, but I have no problem running vim or emacs on this machine... And you can connect it to a bigger screen. And it's really lightweight.

X-Istence 15y ago
The biggest thing for me is the processor speed, and the ram. When I am linking our proprietary code base it can use up to 2.5 Gb of ram ...
- wazoox 15y ago
  YMMV. Anything running X-Window, a browser and vim is OK for me. I could develop on a 300 Mhz Ultra-5 (I have one :)

reinhardt 15y ago

"a quick Google search did return valid results this time around, particularly that it is for sale on Amazon." It's kinda amusing that in your quest for more RMS-inspired freedom you came in contact with two of his companies-non-gratae.

X-Istence 15y ago
I didn't really want it for RMS-inspired freedom, as a hardware hacker/tinkerer I think it would be interesting to own a machine where I could change the way the BIOS worked, where I can get full access to the datasheets. Some of RMS's policies and ideas and thoughts seem completely foreign to me... for example, I absolutely love my iPhone and enjoy working on OS X as my day to day machine, but every so often I really just want to tinker and that is when I enjoy hardware/electronics (such as the MSP430, Atmel AVR, and others)...
- homosaur 15y ago
  Yeah, this is the same reason I would like it. I'd actually like to hack on the BIOS and learn more about the full stack of technology in general. I think if you only worked in terminal it would be quite enough beef to run with. I think X would even work alright if you ran with a low end WM or none at all. You're probably not going to get LibreOffice going but I bet Abiword runs great. I was running X on Pentium II with no WM recently so I think it would be good on this machine.