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Caffeine is really not unhealthy. It's one of the most studied supplements ever. If you drink one cup of coffee before noon you will be perfectly fine.

Almondsetat 3y ago
>if you drink one cup If you only shoot heroin once a week you will be perfectly fine How many people resist the urge and only shoot heroin once a week? We are humans, not perfectly diligent robots. The first thing you say to a person with eating disorders is to throw all the junk food from their home. It’s close to impossible to resist even the “simple” temptation of food. It’s much easier for a person to never start drinking coffee in the morning to “wake up” than starting and then quitting
- brigadier132 3y ago
  Caffeine is not heroin. Caffeine has proven benefits. Given your entire comment is one massive strawman argument I will ignore the rest of it.
  - Almondsetat 3y ago
    > Caffeine is not heroin. Caffeine has proven benefits. Heroin has proven benefits, this is why they give it to you at the hospital. Given your entire comment is a massive lie I will ignore the rest of your replies
    - brigadier132 3y ago
      Ah yes, heroin and caffeine are equivalent, that's why we see all those caffeine addicts lining the streets of San Francisco looking for their next fix. If you want to have an honest discussion, stop using these terrible analogies and bring actual scientific evidence. This mentality of finding these shallow similarities and drawing these insane conclusions indicates that someone has very low intelligence. This is your "deep" thought process 1. Caffeine is a drug 2. Heroin is also a drug 3. Caffeine can have negative effects on people when used in excess 4. Heroin can also have negative effects on people when used in excess! ergo, caffeine is as bad as heroin
      - Almondsetat 3y ago
        > ergo, caffeine is as bad as heroin Never said this. Perhaps if you didn’t “ignore” the rest of my comment you would have understood the point :)
      - discard124 3y ago
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      - r2_pilot 3y ago
        There's a Starbucks in town whose unfortunate positioning has led to a great increase in wrecks (it's just past a hill, on a fairly busy road with speed limit of 40mph, and it doesn't have enough space for a large drive thru so cars are backed into the road).
  - hiAndrewQuinn 3y ago
    Actually, I have to side with the original commenter on this. A great deal of today's public health issues in the first world stem directly or indirectly from people being unable to properly moderate use of a good thing. That's why I switched to decaf - I'd have to drink 10 times the amount of coffee I normally do to get an equivalent dose.
    - TedDoesntTalk 3y ago
      Decaf has its own issues. Read up on the residues left in coffee after it’s been through the decaf process.
- caskstrength 3y ago
  I just turn off coffee machine at noon and that is it. How hard can it be for you?
  - Almondsetat 3y ago
    >How hard can it be for you? maybe ask the 100 years of scientific publications about human behavior and addiction?
    - TedDoesntTalk 3y ago
      There are different intensities of addiction. Heroin addiction is not comparable to caffeine. And we each respond differently to addictive substances.
    - caskstrength 3y ago
      You are constructing very weird strawman here. Me and a lot of my friends have beer in the fridge or some stronger spirit on the shelf and yet they don't get drunk first thing in the morning before work. Similarly I don't observe them gulping liters of coffee at 10 pm. There are always people who have harder time moderating their addictions, but absolute majority seem to be able to control their caffeine consumption just fine.
      - Almondsetat 3y ago
        > absolute majority seem to be able to control their caffeine consumption just fine. According to whom? Data says otherwise https://www.statista.com/chart/19524/cups-of-coffee-drunk-by-americans-per-day/ https://www.statista.com/chart/19524/cups-of-coffee-drunk-by...
        caskstrength 3y ago
        "One cup" of coffee doesn't mean anything by itself since the effects depend on both genetics and tolerance. Do you have data that confirms that majority of adults either consume so much coffee that it causes unwanted side effects (sleep problems) or that they want to reduce their consumption and struggling to do so due to the dependency? I usually consume two double espressos per day (both before noon) and don't have trouble falling asleep afterwards.

Almondsetat 3y ago

>if you drink one cup If you only shoot heroin once a week you will be perfectly fine How many people resist the urge and only shoot heroin once a week? We are humans, not perfectly diligent robots. The first thing you say to a person with eating disorders is to throw all the junk food from their home. It’s close to impossible to resist even the “simple” temptation of food. It’s much easier for a person to never start drinking coffee in the morning to “wake up” than starting and then quitting

brigadier132 3y ago
Caffeine is not heroin. Caffeine has proven benefits. Given your entire comment is one massive strawman argument I will ignore the rest of it.
- Almondsetat 3y ago
  > Caffeine is not heroin. Caffeine has proven benefits. Heroin has proven benefits, this is why they give it to you at the hospital. Given your entire comment is a massive lie I will ignore the rest of your replies
  - brigadier132 3y ago
    Ah yes, heroin and caffeine are equivalent, that's why we see all those caffeine addicts lining the streets of San Francisco looking for their next fix. If you want to have an honest discussion, stop using these terrible analogies and bring actual scientific evidence. This mentality of finding these shallow similarities and drawing these insane conclusions indicates that someone has very low intelligence. This is your "deep" thought process 1. Caffeine is a drug 2. Heroin is also a drug 3. Caffeine can have negative effects on people when used in excess 4. Heroin can also have negative effects on people when used in excess! ergo, caffeine is as bad as heroin
    - Almondsetat 3y ago
      > ergo, caffeine is as bad as heroin Never said this. Perhaps if you didn’t “ignore” the rest of my comment you would have understood the point :)
    - discard124 3y ago
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    - r2_pilot 3y ago
      There's a Starbucks in town whose unfortunate positioning has led to a great increase in wrecks (it's just past a hill, on a fairly busy road with speed limit of 40mph, and it doesn't have enough space for a large drive thru so cars are backed into the road).
- hiAndrewQuinn 3y ago
  Actually, I have to side with the original commenter on this. A great deal of today's public health issues in the first world stem directly or indirectly from people being unable to properly moderate use of a good thing. That's why I switched to decaf - I'd have to drink 10 times the amount of coffee I normally do to get an equivalent dose.
  - TedDoesntTalk 3y ago
    Decaf has its own issues. Read up on the residues left in coffee after it’s been through the decaf process.
caskstrength 3y ago
I just turn off coffee machine at noon and that is it. How hard can it be for you?
- Almondsetat 3y ago
  >How hard can it be for you? maybe ask the 100 years of scientific publications about human behavior and addiction?
  - TedDoesntTalk 3y ago
    There are different intensities of addiction. Heroin addiction is not comparable to caffeine. And we each respond differently to addictive substances.
  - caskstrength 3y ago
    You are constructing very weird strawman here. Me and a lot of my friends have beer in the fridge or some stronger spirit on the shelf and yet they don't get drunk first thing in the morning before work. Similarly I don't observe them gulping liters of coffee at 10 pm. There are always people who have harder time moderating their addictions, but absolute majority seem to be able to control their caffeine consumption just fine.
    - Almondsetat 3y ago
      > absolute majority seem to be able to control their caffeine consumption just fine. According to whom? Data says otherwise https://www.statista.com/chart/19524/cups-of-coffee-drunk-by-americans-per-day/ https://www.statista.com/chart/19524/cups-of-coffee-drunk-by...
      - caskstrength 3y ago
        "One cup" of coffee doesn't mean anything by itself since the effects depend on both genetics and tolerance. Do you have data that confirms that majority of adults either consume so much coffee that it causes unwanted side effects (sleep problems) or that they want to reduce their consumption and struggling to do so due to the dependency? I usually consume two double espressos per day (both before noon) and don't have trouble falling asleep afterwards.