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The same people that pay for tuition free primary education....

bequanna 3y ago
Local taxpayers/property owners? That model doesn’t really work to fund higher education. The public won’t accept doubling or tripling their property tax.
- WkndTriathlete 3y ago
  > That model doesn’t really work to fund higher education. The public won’t accept doubling or tripling their property tax. [citation needed] And I can give you a citation against. In my local municipality the tax base is roughly $1.5 billion. The annual expenditures for the local vo-tech school for that municipality is $30 million. If all of the state and tuition funding for the vo-tech school suddenly vanished the property owners would see a rise of ... wait for it ... a grand total of 2%. Certainly a far cry from the doubling or tripling you suggested. Amortizing the tuition across all public post-secondary institutions in the state via income and property tax bases of the entire state would likely be somewhere in the neighborhood of 1-2% total every year. Based on that analysis it seems monumentally stupid to NOT publicly fund post-secondary education. Ditch the NCAA sports programs and it probably gets cheaper. The whole sales pitch for sports is that scholarships provide a pathway for some students to go to college that otherwise could not afford it. Get rid of tuition and suddenly that reason goes away, too.
  - bequanna 3y ago
    Colleges/Universities absolutely do not need more money...they need more accountability. I'm not arguing with your numbers, I guess my point is that I don't think taxpayers will accept a huge "freebie" for one group which results in their taxes going up. The optics are terrible.
- BeetleB 3y ago
  In reality (and historically), it's the state taxes and not property taxes. Still, if I had 2 kids, doubling my property tax would be cheaper for me than my paying for their tuition at current rates.
nordsieck 3y ago
> The same people that pay for tuition free primary education.... Are you suggesting that people should be locked to the school in their district? Because that's the way primary education works.
- antoniuschan99 3y ago
  Public community colleges primarily attract and accept students from the local community and are usually supported by local tax revenue - from Wikipedia.
- sophacles 3y ago
  They aren't locked in. That's the one provided for free. It doesn't seem to stop private schools and homeschooling at all.
- neaden 3y ago
  Public universities are generally run by the state, not a local government so sure, free in state tuition sounds reasonable.

Local taxpayers/property owners? That model doesn’t really work to fund higher education. The public won’t accept doubling or tripling their property tax.

WkndTriathlete 3y ago
> That model doesn’t really work to fund higher education. The public won’t accept doubling or tripling their property tax. [citation needed] And I can give you a citation against. In my local municipality the tax base is roughly $1.5 billion. The annual expenditures for the local vo-tech school for that municipality is $30 million. If all of the state and tuition funding for the vo-tech school suddenly vanished the property owners would see a rise of ... wait for it ... a grand total of 2%. Certainly a far cry from the doubling or tripling you suggested. Amortizing the tuition across all public post-secondary institutions in the state via income and property tax bases of the entire state would likely be somewhere in the neighborhood of 1-2% total every year. Based on that analysis it seems monumentally stupid to NOT publicly fund post-secondary education. Ditch the NCAA sports programs and it probably gets cheaper. The whole sales pitch for sports is that scholarships provide a pathway for some students to go to college that otherwise could not afford it. Get rid of tuition and suddenly that reason goes away, too.
- bequanna 3y ago
  Colleges/Universities absolutely do not need more money...they need more accountability. I'm not arguing with your numbers, I guess my point is that I don't think taxpayers will accept a huge "freebie" for one group which results in their taxes going up. The optics are terrible.
BeetleB 3y ago
In reality (and historically), it's the state taxes and not property taxes. Still, if I had 2 kids, doubling my property tax would be cheaper for me than my paying for their tuition at current rates.

nordsieck 3y ago

> The same people that pay for tuition free primary education.... Are you suggesting that people should be locked to the school in their district? Because that's the way primary education works.

antoniuschan99 3y ago
Public community colleges primarily attract and accept students from the local community and are usually supported by local tax revenue - from Wikipedia.
sophacles 3y ago
They aren't locked in. That's the one provided for free. It doesn't seem to stop private schools and homeschooling at all.
neaden 3y ago
Public universities are generally run by the state, not a local government so sure, free in state tuition sounds reasonable.