3 ms·

I think you're already receiving the general opinion in the form of downvotes, but for the sake of constructive debate I'll try to respond. > homeschooling has

by arkey 3y ago

I think you're already receiving the general opinion in the form of downvotes, but for the sake of constructive debate I'll try to respond. > homeschooling has horrific and hidden outcomes Please tell me more, as a homeschooled and successful software engineer and family guy I'm interested. Several people in my family are or have been homeschooled. I could tell you where they're at right now but I've bragged enough with myself already. Yes, there can be horrific and hidden outcomes with homeschooling. Also with public education. Also with woodworking. Or having kids. Or cooking. It's about how you do something, and why you do it. Sorry for being so condescending, but your statements are offensive in their absurdity.

ethbr1 3y ago
>> homeschooling has horrific and hidden outcomes > Please tell me more https://www.hsinvisiblechildren.org/fatalities/ https://www.hsinvisiblechildren.org/fatalities/ The root issue is that the homeschooling community, in their general distrust and suspicion of government authority has pushed hard for zero oversight and regulation (mostly through the HSLDA). In most states, they've been able to achieve that. And as potentially valid of a goal as avoiding oversight by someone you don't trust might be, it has willingly created a void. A void that the homeschooling community itself doesn't police. Consequently, when you do have the worst of the worst home outcomes... there's no one to turn to. And HSLDA even has specific playbooks to help parents avoid CPS intervention. These cases are then buried to the extent possible (lobbying, media removal requests) because their very existence threatens the overall goal. What are a few broken eggs to make an omelette, though?
- arkey 3y ago
  > https://www.hsinvisiblechildren.org/fatalities/ https://www.hsinvisiblechildren.org/fatalities/ This is horrific. > What are a few broken eggs to make an omelette, though? I hope my comments don't suggest that this is the perspective of my thinking. However I think we should make an effort of separating extreme cases from the norm. It is unjust to judge homeschooling as a concept by these very unfortunate fringe cases, when there's heaps of proven success cases on the other side, furthermore taking into account that abuse also happens despite kids going to public or even private schools. And also taking into account that the protection laws that are so mentioned here have also been often abused by the government against innocent and honest people and their families.

by arkey 3y ago

ethbr1 3y ago

>> homeschooling has horrific and hidden outcomes > Please tell me more https://www.hsinvisiblechildren.org/fatalities/ https://www.hsinvisiblechildren.org/fatalities/ The root issue is that the homeschooling community, in their general distrust and suspicion of government authority has pushed hard for zero oversight and regulation (mostly through the HSLDA). In most states, they've been able to achieve that. And as potentially valid of a goal as avoiding oversight by someone you don't trust might be, it has willingly created a void. A void that the homeschooling community itself doesn't police. Consequently, when you do have the worst of the worst home outcomes... there's no one to turn to. And HSLDA even has specific playbooks to help parents avoid CPS intervention. These cases are then buried to the extent possible (lobbying, media removal requests) because their very existence threatens the overall goal. What are a few broken eggs to make an omelette, though?

arkey 3y ago
> https://www.hsinvisiblechildren.org/fatalities/ https://www.hsinvisiblechildren.org/fatalities/ This is horrific. > What are a few broken eggs to make an omelette, though? I hope my comments don't suggest that this is the perspective of my thinking. However I think we should make an effort of separating extreme cases from the norm. It is unjust to judge homeschooling as a concept by these very unfortunate fringe cases, when there's heaps of proven success cases on the other side, furthermore taking into account that abuse also happens despite kids going to public or even private schools. And also taking into account that the protection laws that are so mentioned here have also been often abused by the government against innocent and honest people and their families.