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You think 99% of the public can afford a Tesla? But yeah, the problem for me has always been no ability to charge at home or at work.

darknavi 3y ago
Not 99% by any means but Teslas are beating the average car cost in the US by a decent margin. https://jalopnik.com/tesla-model-3-and-model-y-cost-less-than-the-average-ca-1850914078#:~:text=From%20Bloomberg%3A,an%20analysis%20by%20Bloomberg%20Green https://jalopnik.com/tesla-model-3-and-model-y-cost-less-tha....
- simiones 3y ago
  This seems very much US specific. In many other places, EVs are still 2x-3x the cost of ICE cars.
- falcolas 3y ago
  They're comparing base trim for the Model 3 with the average price paid across all ICE vehicles. It's a useful thing to note, but it's not a realistic comparison for what people will actually want to buy (especially when one of the big trim options is how far you're allowed to drive it per charge).
userinanother 3y ago
They are pretty cheap now just that all cars have become more expensive. Also almost everyone is switching to the new charging standard
Workaccount2 3y ago
No, they think that of the general public who are looking for an EV, 99% of those people would be best served by going with a Tesla.
Analemma_ 3y ago
I think people who post comments like this aren't aware what the new car market in the US is like right now. The most common new cars on the road today are gigantic crossovers and blinged-out F-150s that cost more than Teslas do. Via Consumer Reports in Sep. 2023: > The average cost of new cars is now well over $48,000—up almost $6,000 from two years ago and about $10,000 from September 2020, according to Kelley Blue Book. That figure largely tracks with inflation, but there are many other factors at play. When the average price of a new car is pushing $50K I don't think it makes sense any longer to say "nobody would ever buy a Tesla, they're too expensive."
- danaris 3y ago
  That average price is being dragged up a lot by truck sales, including fleet purchases. While the average MSRP of cars in general has definitely risen over the last few years, I don't think it's all that likely that most people are buying much larger, more expensive cars, particularly given the overall decrease in their purchasing power. Frankly, I suspect that many buyers have been priced out of the new-car market entirely—which would provide another upward pressure on their average selling price, as more of those who would have been buying at the bottom simply vanish from those statistics. And someone who's now looking at used cars because they're not even able to afford a $23k new Corolla or Civic is absolutely not going to be in the market for a Tesla of any kind.
- peteradio 3y ago
  Is that average of all models weighted by actual sales?

darknavi 3y ago

Not 99% by any means but Teslas are beating the average car cost in the US by a decent margin. https://jalopnik.com/tesla-model-3-and-model-y-cost-less-than-the-average-ca-1850914078#:~:text=From%20Bloomberg%3A,an%20analysis%20by%20Bloomberg%20Green https://jalopnik.com/tesla-model-3-and-model-y-cost-less-tha....

simiones 3y ago
This seems very much US specific. In many other places, EVs are still 2x-3x the cost of ICE cars.
falcolas 3y ago
They're comparing base trim for the Model 3 with the average price paid across all ICE vehicles. It's a useful thing to note, but it's not a realistic comparison for what people will actually want to buy (especially when one of the big trim options is how far you're allowed to drive it per charge).

userinanother 3y ago

They are pretty cheap now just that all cars have become more expensive. Also almost everyone is switching to the new charging standard

Workaccount2 3y ago

No, they think that of the general public who are looking for an EV, 99% of those people would be best served by going with a Tesla.

Analemma_ 3y ago

I think people who post comments like this aren't aware what the new car market in the US is like right now. The most common new cars on the road today are gigantic crossovers and blinged-out F-150s that cost more than Teslas do. Via Consumer Reports in Sep. 2023: > The average cost of new cars is now well over $48,000—up almost $6,000 from two years ago and about $10,000 from September 2020, according to Kelley Blue Book. That figure largely tracks with inflation, but there are many other factors at play. When the average price of a new car is pushing $50K I don't think it makes sense any longer to say "nobody would ever buy a Tesla, they're too expensive."

danaris 3y ago
That average price is being dragged up a lot by truck sales, including fleet purchases. While the average MSRP of cars in general has definitely risen over the last few years, I don't think it's all that likely that most people are buying much larger, more expensive cars, particularly given the overall decrease in their purchasing power. Frankly, I suspect that many buyers have been priced out of the new-car market entirely—which would provide another upward pressure on their average selling price, as more of those who would have been buying at the bottom simply vanish from those statistics. And someone who's now looking at used cars because they're not even able to afford a $23k new Corolla or Civic is absolutely not going to be in the market for a Tesla of any kind.
peteradio 3y ago
Is that average of all models weighted by actual sales?