How do we judge harm? And over what timeline? Is a coach who drives the team in practice, making them suffer, in preparation for a game: is that harmful? The at

How do we judge harm? And over what timeline? Is a coach who drives the team in practice, making them suffer, in preparation for a game: is that harmful? The athletes are suffering! Is a parent harming their child when they ground the child for being late multiple times? Is that harm? The child is suffering! Is short-term harm in the interest of long-term benefit still harmful? What if you are unaware of the harm of your actions? Are you still justified? "Do no harm" is a terrible metric to use for guiding one's actions. Libertarianism (which is the source of the "no harm" principle) is completely oblivious to the notion that humans are complex, interdependent, and not purely self-determined.