> As someone who was raised in religious communities, that "higher aspirations" is only the position "in principle" in reality working with people in the religi

> As someone who was raised in religious communities, that "higher aspirations" is only the position "in principle" in reality working with people in the religious community was just scams and moral self justification of despicable behavior hidden behind soft language and terrible behavior. Yeah, but at least there's a defined goal that they're failing at and you can point it out to them with a 30% chance they'll feel shame. In the secular world it's just free form open world. People have no anchor to cling to or example to fail to aspire to. It's just Elon Musk one week and Kylie Jenner the next.