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You’re not wrong and I agree with a lot of your points. When I refer to Catholicism as “liberal” I am comparing it to other Christian sects and even other monot

You’re not wrong and I agree with a lot of your points. When I refer to Catholicism as “liberal” I am comparing it to other Christian sects and even other monotheistic religions such as Islam. For example, unlike other Christian sects, Catholicism accepts concepts such as evolution. > Yes, Catholicism might not be as unyielding as Christian evangelism or fundamentalism. Maybe you meant to direct your comment to someone else because it sounds like we agree?

vitus 3y ago
My point was that there are Christian denominations that are accepting of others as they are, and aren't trying to impose their narrow worldview on others. Catholicism isn't one of them. For instance: Episcopalians support gender and racial equality, as do the Anglicans they're an offshoot of. Presbyterians are similarly accepting, even if they haven't made an official statement on that front. Reform Judaism similarly is an attempt at reconciling historical traditions with the need to exist in a modern world. It's hard to ascribe a particular ideology to Islam because it varies widely based on its practitioners and their interpretations (as is the case with Baptists, Lutherans, and many other religions where there is not a central authority). Certainly we see very oppressive policies in a number of Middle Eastern countries, but in the US, especially in the past decades we've seen an alignment of American Muslims with the Democratic party and more liberal / progressive policies (largely due to anti-Muslim rhetoric from the right post-9/11). A few surveys from Pew: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2015/12/21/where-christian-churches-stand-on-gay-marriage/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2015/12/21/where-chr... https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2015/12/02/religious-groups-policies-on-transgender-members-vary-widely/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2015/12/02/religious... https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2016/06/21/where-major-religious-groups-stand-on-abortion/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2016/06/21/where-maj...
- chaostheory 3y ago
  > Episcopalians support gender and racial equality, as do the Anglicans they're an offshoot of. Presbyterians are similarly accepting If my memory is still ok, I remember those sects splitting due to differences in those beliefs among their members

vitus 3y ago

My point was that there are Christian denominations that are accepting of others as they are, and aren't trying to impose their narrow worldview on others. Catholicism isn't one of them. For instance: Episcopalians support gender and racial equality, as do the Anglicans they're an offshoot of. Presbyterians are similarly accepting, even if they haven't made an official statement on that front. Reform Judaism similarly is an attempt at reconciling historical traditions with the need to exist in a modern world. It's hard to ascribe a particular ideology to Islam because it varies widely based on its practitioners and their interpretations (as is the case with Baptists, Lutherans, and many other religions where there is not a central authority). Certainly we see very oppressive policies in a number of Middle Eastern countries, but in the US, especially in the past decades we've seen an alignment of American Muslims with the Democratic party and more liberal / progressive policies (largely due to anti-Muslim rhetoric from the right post-9/11). A few surveys from Pew: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2015/12/21/where-christian-churches-stand-on-gay-marriage/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2015/12/21/where-chr... https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2015/12/02/religious-groups-policies-on-transgender-members-vary-widely/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2015/12/02/religious... https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2016/06/21/where-major-religious-groups-stand-on-abortion/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2016/06/21/where-maj...

chaostheory 3y ago
> Episcopalians support gender and racial equality, as do the Anglicans they're an offshoot of. Presbyterians are similarly accepting If my memory is still ok, I remember those sects splitting due to differences in those beliefs among their members